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Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:23 am

I'm talking about MY guilt - I laughed at her untimely death because she was a nice person really, and the fact that she put up with George proved that. But it was so freakin funny!

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:27 am

@FF

LOL. Oh. Now THAT makes more sense. I liked the face she made as she keeled
over. On the one hand, totally slapstick. On the other hand, still very very funny looking. I liked her too but.... sheeesh, she had to be killed off. I mean, George and her?

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:08 am

I liked the show. Did you know there is a Superman in every ep? :O

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:50 am

Seinfeld is funny, and I try to convince people to celebrate Festivus. Thread over

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:22 am

Thread over... is that like a *click*?

One can never be shure these days, with two recent *click* launcher misfires lately

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:44 am

Ok, I dont like seinfeld, i just found it boring, really really boring, you hear the audience burst in laughter and you try to realize what you just missed that was so funny. I dont watch many of the sitcoms on tv, i usually only watch movies and i would never ever ever miss a night of Futurama and Family Guy (my favorite show of all time, family guy) now that I think is real comedy, gets me to laugh out loud every single time. As for sex and the city and friends i just dont pay attention, I guess each one caters to different tastes. But the 2 I mentioned are my all time favorites.

"Talk Is Cheap Because The Supply Far Exceeds The Demand"

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:29 am

i'll fess up. i've never watched a whole episode of Seinfeld, just the odd bit here and there. so yeh i'm being really prejudiced and superficial and being exactly what i criiticise in others i suppose. but that canned laughter puts me off straight away.

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:42 pm

@Taw

Well. Yeah. The laugh track can be annoying. Especially if you're watching something new and trying to decide for yourself whether you think something is funny. Laughtracks tend to push me away from finding something funny from which I otherwise may have taken some amusement.

I guess I should try to tell you why I like Seinfeld.... Just so you have something to take potshots at with your Sig or some other item from your arsenal.

I like Seinfeld because:

1) They take not necessarily taboo subjects but subjects that usually are not considered polite subjects of discussion and write plots for them. I.e. Master of his domain.

2) They exploit the small venial selfish and stupid tendencies that everyone secretly harbors and tries to keep at bay but which everyone usually gives free rein to when they think no one is watching.

3) They take Murphy's law and push it straight through to the Xen Dimension.

4) The actors. They play their characters so very well, you don't even notice that Jerry can't act.

Edited by - Indy11 on 17-11-2003 15:43:05

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:45 pm

Now another question: was Seinfeld better or worse with the occasional stand-up acts integrated in-between the scenes?

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:45 pm

ok i'll give it a go on Paramount next time it's on, but i expect i'll still not like it.

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:07 pm

@Taw,

Cheers. It may prove to be more fun if you DON'T like it anyway. I'd love to see what you have to say to tear the show apart in minutiae.

@FF:

Now another question: was Seinfeld better or worse with the occasional stand-up acts integrated in-between the scenes?


I think shows without the stand-up acts, meaning the later seasons, are better. I thought that those routines were intended to sort of help the audience those with even less sophistication than the lowest common denominator, understand the point of humor. I liked them enough but they didn't add that much to the show... then again, those earlier shows sometimes did need the extra help.

Edited by - Indy11 on 17-11-2003 17:21:09

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:35 pm

I hate (what..no i dont) picking apart peoples threads but here i go anyway...mostly because i'm Bored (y'see, i'm so bored i capitalised the B, so bored i felt the need to reach for that Shift Key...oh, and bored enough to write this explaination of how come i'm so bored).


1) They take not necessarily taboo subjects but subjects that usually are not considered polite subjects of discussion and write plots for them. I.e. Master of his domain.

This doesnt sound very taboo. Master of his domain..thats just Taw on his office network. Sounds like the plots are no more taboo than an episode of Eastenders.


2) They exploit the small venial selfish and stupid tendencies that everyone secretly harbors and tries to keep at bay but which everyone usually gives free rein to when they think no one is watching.

Oh i see. Very good. No wait, thats what EVERY show does. The idea being you need a way to relate to the characters else its just unconectable drivvel (so maybe i just cant connect). Either way, any stand up comedian will do the same thing. Real life views which everyone has. Hey, if thats the basic plot outlines for the characters, i should totally have my own TV show. Arcon TV...the series


3) They take Murphy's law and push it straight through to the Xen Dimension.

What the hell does THAT mean? thats like some peace of advertising bumf: "The New York Times called it 'Sidecrackingly Normal', 'Unflinchingly Standard' and 'Murphy's Law straight through the Xen Dimension'"
Unless i can mentally picture what that means..its going in the bin.
Do you mean. Like all comedy shows, bad things happen to good characters?


4) The actors. They play their characters so very well, you don't even notice that Jerry can't act.

I notice that he cant act, i notice how they ALL cant act. As Brian said when watching Sienfeld..."where the hell is the remote?"



"it has to start somewhere, it has to start sometime, what better place than here, what better time than now"

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:25 pm

@FF

Arcon said:

This doesnt sound very taboo. Master of his domain..thats just Taw on his office network. Sounds like the plots are no more taboo than an episode of Eastenders.


Erm. Fear Factor? What would be the TLR correct way to explain this one?

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:38 pm

i don't tear things apart, do i?

Post Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:52 pm

@Arcon
On #2

Oh i see. Very good. No wait, thats what EVERY show does. The idea being you need a way to relate to the characters else its just unconectable drivvel (so maybe i just cant connect). Either way, any stand up comedian will do the same thing. Real life views which everyone has. Hey, if thats the basic plot outlines for the characters, i should totally have my own TV show. Arcon TV...the series


That's right. EVERY show. But not the same flaw EVERY show so, no, it is not like "Are You Being Served." I don't know what you do well enough to agree or disagree on whether a show based on what you do would be, as Elaine puts it..."sponge worthy" .... but,yeah. That's the point of it. Do I detect a note of envy that Seinfeld thought of it before you did?

On #3

What the hell does THAT mean? thats like some peace of advertising bumf: "The New York Times called it 'Sidecrackingly Normal', 'Unflinchingly Standard' and 'Murphy's Law straight through the Xen Dimension'"
Unless i can mentally picture what that means..its going in the bin.
Do you mean. Like all comedy shows, bad things happen to good characters?


Well, I used it the Xen Dimension to make a funny which, I think, Taw got. Yes, what can go wrong does go wrong. But, and I suppose this is where your sense of tedium may set in, the things that go wrong prey upon the viewer's .... its that German word. Hold on, I have to google for it....

Got it. It preys upon the viewer's sense of schadenfreude and the viewers funny bone at the same time so you get to laugh at the gag and then laugh at yourself for laughing in the first place.

On #4. Well, I don't know what to tell you. I see it as good acting, except for Jerry. OK. I suppose a Cleesian rant may be superior to Jason Alexander's but, at the same token, Cleese's rants are not necessarily that well executed in every case. I mean, a mad Brit? Ho hum. What else is new. *yawn*

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