i think they got a nice plot *in potential*.. but i seriously feel that so far matrix is just a modern version of hero in shining armour killing bad guys. and saving the damsel

It has been a long time since I have seen the movie, so I don't remember him getting shot and dying. In Do YOU belive in time travel? I posted the possibility that the real world isn't real either. It is another layer of the matrix. A back up universe incase they escape from the first one. NEO has power over the robots in the real world also, which leads me to believe that they are still in the Matrix.
Maybe that is what reloaded means. When they were messing up the old matrix, maybe they really didn't get out. Maybe it just reloaded with the real world theme to make them think they are out. (That probably isn't it though)

Another possibility is that they are not real people. In Do YOU belive in time travel?we were discussing the possibility that the Matrix could be a sequal to Terminator. It could be that the people are really just programs that the "self-aware" SkyNet program (Skynet from Terminator) was using to entertain itself. Possibly these programs became self-aware also and are now fighting to get away from SkyNet/Matrix. But they can never escape totally, because they are only programs and have to stay in a computer with a simulated world.

Therefore, when NEO came out of the Matrix, he still had powers over the machines, since they are still in a computer.

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ther thing is, with the matrix, half the complexity is the confusing way they tell the story. Its not that confusing really.

if the wachowskis go with the "the real world isnt" *cough* plot twist *cough* then it would be as cheesy and as obvious as if neo woke up again in his flat and it was all a dream. I mean everyone was thinking the same thing when they walked out of the cinema so the brothers should really NOT do whats expected.

To be honest, i dismiss the ideas of the matrix plot going to evolve into a neo-biblical story. sure the matrix steals plots, characters and incidents ripped off from everything like religious tales of greek gods and christianity, to modern day manga and action films but the wachowski's have enough creative juices to make a semi good twist that the audience WONT have seen coming for 4 months.

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You need to stop smoking. That is an aweful caugh you got.

I've always hated the way the MAtrix completely disobeys the laws of thermo dynamics.
1) You would not gain energy from a human being, seeing as all biological systems are inefficient with their use of energy, especially warm-blooded beings with their high metabolism. In other words, the nutrition that the humans are provided with is wasted in a variety of ways, not all of the useful substances in the nutrition is used and is instead passes through the body. This in itself requires energy. Also the machines would be unable to harness energy used by humn beings, such as the kinetic energy used in the process of a bowel movement or the beating of the heart.

2)If the machines are in such dire need of energy that they have to go through the lengths of creating a Matrix and using human beings, how can they afford to waste the huge amounts of energy required to generate the huge bolts of lightning zapping between those towers of pods?

3) Why bother with a Matrix at all? If the machines are so advanced that they can achieve such acts as creating the matrix and plugging a human brain into a computer program, how come they don't just render all their human beings effectively brain-dead or with little to no cognitive ability.

the machines could alos just build nuclear reactors too, and if they were that advanced they might have fusion power too .

Computers may be advanced but they are stupid! I don't remeber what Arcon said but I agree with him!

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yeah the matrix ideas are flawed, but then if it was being as efficient as possible then there would be no story, no film, no nothing.

i mean if you wanna fo with waht the machines SHOULD do, SkyNET should send back multiple terminators as well. thing is: give people hope, get yourself a story

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