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Miracle Workers

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Post Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:02 am

Miracle Workers

Just something I´d like to talk about, because it´s so fascinating. I´m talking about surgeons and everything that has to do with medical science.

It´s absolutely fascinating to witness the incredible progress in medical science and from time to time I truly marvel at its genius. I can hardly grasp how some surgeons can do certain operations. Of course there are always very sad stories from things gone wrong, ranging from slight human errors to grave mistakes with horrible consequences, but in general, most surgeons are true miracle workers.

Example (WARNING: very detailed article, so only for people with a strong stomach):


'Critical stage' in bid to separate Iranian twins

Neurosurgeons bidding to separate Iranian sisters joined at the head are grappling with rerouting a vein as thick as a finger that helps blood flow through the twins' brains. An international team of five neurosurgeons probed the brains of 29-year-old Ladan and Laleh Bijani as a crucial phase begins in the historic operation expected to last two to four days. "The next 12-24 hours will be a very critical period," Dr Prem Kumar said. The operation at Singapore's Raffles Hospital could kill one or both of the sisters. Surgeons are expected to begin separating the twins' brains this afternoon after encountering unexpected delays cutting through their skulls when the bone turned out to be denser than previously thought, Kumar told a news conference.

"The procedure took six hours - longer than originally expected - because the bones were thick and compact, especially in the areas where the two skull bones fuse," Kumar said.

The shared vein is the biggest obstacle in the surgery: Other than sharing the vein, the women's brains are not joined - though they touch inside their skulls. Their bodies are otherwise distinct. Doctors have removed a vein from Ladan Bijani's thigh and will use that to compensate for diverting the shared vein to one sister's brain. Surgeons worked simultaneously in front of and behind the twins, who are sitting in a custom-built brace connected to an array of lines feeding them intravenously and monitoring their vital signs. "Everything is going according to schedule," plastic surgeon Dr Walter Tan said after making the incisions into the twins' skulls. The twins spent months training at a gym to build up strength for the surgery and Kumar said they could be kept asleep for four days if necessary. An international team of 28 doctors and about 100 medical assistants were enlisted for the surgery. The £190,000 cost of the operation is being underwritten by Raffles Hospital, and the doctors' fees are being waived.


I have nothing more than the utmost respect for surgeons, doctors etc. and people who want to become them.

Does any of you share my thoughts on this matter ? Does anyone of you have such a remarkable story (success or failure) ? Please remember to keep this thread civil !



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Edited by - Eraser on 07-07-2003 11:08:52

Post Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:11 am

These physicians are the real heroes of the world. My hats off to them!

I wonder if they take turns in shifts to do this. Best of luck to the patient(s) too!

Post Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:39 pm

wats so amazing to me is that they take so damn long to do an operation.. tho i don't know the facts, obviously. and they need to be able to sleep for 4 days? wow. so far in my life, i've never so much as gone to a doc for any type of physical injuries/mutations. so i don't know too much. anyways, i still have great respect for those docs, but personally, i don't ever want to become one. and the f140'000 operation was underwritten by the hospital? what does that mean??

Science is knowledge.
Knowledge is power.
Time is money.
power = work/time
therefore, knowledge= work/money
therefore, money = work/knowledge
therefore, money is inversely proportional to knowledge.

therefore,

The more knowledge you have, the less money you have.

Prepare for the worst, for you have read the worst.

Post Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:56 pm

Underwritten means they assume financial responsibility for the operation and fees are being waived means that they (the surgeons) refrain from getting their fee. These two things are gaining them even more respect IMO !

Post Tue Jul 08, 2003 10:31 pm

Sad news I guess no miracle this time. Still a great display of resolve and bravery for the patients and the doctors.

Post Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:28 am

Yeah, very sad that the twins died The surgeons were already operating for about 50+ hours, but too much blood was lost, so eventually they couldn´t survive that. Those girls really needed a miracle, but sadly this time it didn´t happen...

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