Actually, I meant the actress who played Jeanne d´Arc (Joan of Arc) in Luc Besson´s version.....Milla Jovovich

FF.

I understand that....and I had intended the last ones to be humourous....I would never go back and change something, because who knows what consequences would arise from it.

See also the Simpsons Halloween Episode where Homer uses a time machine and accidentally steps on a bug...Goes back and the world is different from his perspective...Keeps trying, and nothing is the same.

A little extreme...but a perfect example of what COULD go wrong.

Take killing Hitler before he rose to power...What if killing him was the wrong thing to do....Imagine. A lot of new technological advances in all fields came from that war. Both in the Military and the private sector.

I firmly belive altering the past may have dire consequences, and should not be done.

Take this from a story I read:

Imagine inventing a time machine, and going back to meet your grandfather. You kill him before he met your grandmother.
Therefore stopping your family tree right there.
If your grandparents never met, and had your parents...
You therefore don't exist, so how could you have created that time machine to go back in time to kill your grandfather.

You just created a paradox,


Or this one:

You go back in time, and kill Bill Gates before he starts Microsoft...Great...A techno-pirate is gone. However...It's a fact that due to Microsoft, most of our advances were possible in the Computer field. Our level of computer technology would be much different...However we wouldn't know any better, becuase MS never existed...

Or:

Kill Hitler. How do we know that one of the millions he murdered was destined to be killed, and ended up being the most evil mass murderer since Jack the Ripper?

We don't. It's safer to leave history alone.

That's why honestly I would just like to go back and observe.

The rest, like the World Domination scheme, is just a good plot line for a book...Besides...I would leave all the logistics to my generals....lol

-Arg



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FF I thought that Thread was Archived?

I think that the "killing Hitler" stuff has already been exploited by Westwood - hence the Red Alert games.
Hmm, looks like the makers of the Simpsons stole the idea from Ray Bradbury - only in that case the guy stepped on a butterfly.
@Eraser: geez, man if you want to do Jovovic, why in the heck do you need the time machine? I thiunk she's still alive

It would be intresting to go into the 2370s and see what life is like

What's so special about 2370s? Why not any other date? Just curious

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geez, man if you want to do Jovovic, why in the heck do you need the time machine? I thiunk she's still alive

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Heh he, yeah I know she´s still alive ! My entire post didn´t make sense...
I talked about Joan of Arc and hoping she looked like Milla Jovovich back then or something...I dunno...I´m confused

BTW, who said anything about doing her ? ......

*lookes nervous because wife is looking over shoulder...*

I decided a long time ago that going into the future would technically be pointless...since the future is not written.

Our everyday actions dictate what our future will be.

Even going back in time could be dangerous. If you alter the past even one tiny little bit...The timeline you came from could be altered...Sometimes for the better, but could be for the worse.

Even going back as an observer can be dangerous, if you are not careful.

It would take a lot of research to be able to blend in, and learn the local language...Until we invent the Universal Translator.

What would really be amusing, is to see who is right...Darwinists, or Creationists....If Darwinism is true...Imagine how pissed off Creationist's would be...Would have to bring a respected Darwinist and a respected Creationist along with you for that....

I have been toying around with writing a story, whether it's a short story or a series of stories based on a time traveller, or a group of them, that just observes the past, to bring accurate knowledge to the future. Bound by a directive not to interfere...Similar to the Temporal Prime Directive from Star Trek: Voyager...

I have been collecting all kinds of research to figure out what would be the best era to start with.

I know similar things have been done in the past...But I wanted to try it for myself...

Especially with the new theories that are around...Like the Ancient Egyptions actually having electricity....Read here.

-Arg



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Or I can go into the future and buy PCs and games at bargain price



Aku. Soku. Zan. (Kill. Evil. Instantly.)

Just found this site for people that want to complain that Time Travel is not possible.

Mathematically...it is.

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I suppose if I wanted to get away from it all I could go back to a period in time when there were not quite as many humans and go off to a rather remote location. It'd be kinda cool to be able to go out at night and see the vastness of the open sky without any light pollution blocking my view. Then again, I'd only do this for very short periods of time (maybe 5-15 minutes) and then I'd head back to my normal time period.

Oh, and I briefly read that link you posted Argonus. But I have to ask myself, is time travel really possible? Sure, if you go faster than the speed of light you will engage in negative time...but that is entirely dependant on whether or not we can break the light barrier. And, the last I checked the speed of light was the universal speed limit for anything that has mass. However, if you don't mine doing a little irreversible time travel goin forward in time, why not just wait until cryogenic freezing get's their bugs worked out? Now, if you want to read some interesting papers relating to time travel check out "The Paradoxes of Time Travel" by David Lewis or ""Some Free Thinking about Time" by A.N. Prior. Both papers are quite well done and are very interesting (at least they were to me). But, then again, I got my bachelor's in philosophy. Cheers.

EDIT-- Sorry, just read the last sentence in your post. Hehe, my mistake. Mathematically: possible. In the physical world: not possible. Sorry about that.

Edited by - Ein-7919 on 04-04-2003 20:43:25

Well, to be honest, if I could do just ONE thing with a time machine it would be to go into the past and have a long talk with myself. Fix my failing marriage mostly. I love her and I'm losing her soon, it could have been avoided I think... if you are reading this and you are married or even just in a good relationship, don't take it for granted even for a second, believe me! Tell her you love her and do something special for her. Remember that there are people like me who envy you for being able to do that!

now i would go to the "future" of what the current events would lead to and "borrow" a superpowerful fighter and then (using a portal emmiter rather than direct device) go to the past and fight in the battle of brittain, before running out of fuel i would return to an altered future of this past and refuel the fighter and go back to the altered present. where unfortunately the entire world would speak some wierd mis of all the Allied languages and i existed as a Hero of the world and as soon as i got back i would be made president of a small country or something like that.

note this would require not only a muti-time device but also a multi-dimensional or multi-reality device.

also this would require that history went as exactly as i planned

What if Time Travel WAS impossible, but alternate universes were? I don't believe in time travel, since I don't believe that 'time' actually exists outside our universe(s). Alternate universes have their own 'times,' and one might still be the equivalent of our universe's 1453 AD, or 1795 AD. Actually I'm writing a philosophy paper on interpreting 'possible-worlds' through the metaphysics (nominalism) of necessity. Fun.