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Here SysOps can list their MultiPlayer server info and users can send feedback to their SysOps. Or just talk about the MultiPlayer servers they play on. This is not about MultiPlayer in general - please use the MultiPlayer Forum for that!

Post Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:12 am

Attention Stinger

Greetings fellow Admin,

I am the admin of Browclopsia, today we suffered a rather destructive attack from someone whom I understand was a problem on your server for awhile.

"I_am_a_modder" paid us a visit, you can read what he did in my other post "......" Anyways the damage took a few hours to repair.

If you could provide an IP for us to ban him by that would be excellent, if not any suggestions for how you got him to go away with out needing an IP ban.

Before crashing the server he tried to dump a couple hundred-thousand firestalkers outside of manhattan. I managed to ban him 6 times in 10 minutes till he decided to commence his attack against the server itself.

I look forward to your help if you have any information.

Meiyo_Chie
Admin of Browclopsia

Post Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:08 pm

@Meiyo_Chie

We're working on it. Right now we took Elite off-line until we can better handle situations like this. I feel for you in regards to your server, and a solution is coming. I was presented with a list of "demands" from someone (who will remain nameless, there's no point) and to be honest, they were full of really good ideas. Problem is they've all been tried over the months and implimentation is simply a pipe dream without some sort of across the board cooperation. If they would package these great ideas with detailed realistic ways of implimenting them, then it would only be reasonable to give them a shot.

In my experience admining Elite, if a modder/server killer is even asked if they are using a mod, 99% of the time they quickly deny even using one (when the proof is right there in front of us). They talk like they've got something to hide and are offended when asked simple questions. Also, most modders/server killers seem to believe the admins run their servers with blinders on. Wow, could that be any further from the truth. Riding a boat down the river of 'de nile' doesn't go a long way toward cooperation. 99% of server killers (and there's been tons!) I've chatted on Elite with couldn't care less how they are affecting others on the server. This fact alone makes it near impossible to work with them on a compromise.

Bottom line, I was presented ideas like it was an attempt at extortion (do this or else mentality) that did contain sound ideas, but were completely unrealistic. Been there, done that got the shirt to prove it. Fighting the good fight to keep this game pure is a yeomans task. We'll be back very soon, hopefully better equiped.

No one should be attempting to 'demand' anything from server admins. Even server kllers need servers more than the servers need them. I've said this before, and will say it again. All these server killers are more than welcomed to create their own server and run it like they choose. Heck I would LOVE to try out some of these things myself. But to expect an admin to listen to ideas from these server killers without coming to the table with honesty, an open ear and the willingness to compromise is destined to fail 100% of the time. We post Elite's server RuleZ right on the server news, but no one seems to take the time to read them anymore. It's not like we do not try to be up front with people, give credit where credit is due.

On a personal note, I've always be a big cheerleader for people that have the talent to alter Freelancer and make it even better than it was orignally designed. Some of these modification made to Freelancer are in a word, awe-inspiring. But I for one enjoy playing Freelancer exactly as it was designed in out of the box condition and I feel if we asked the MP community much more than half would agree. (can I get a witness?) Maybe I'm way off base, but that's the feeling I get. Most would rather have more pilots in-game to interact with than fewer numbers trying out mods. The Freelancer server software simply can't handle big numbers of players when as few a one single person is using a mod. That is the cards we're dealt with.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programing....

Rob "Stinger" Lordier
Moderator - Lancers Reactor
Creator Privateer FAQ
no good deed will ever go unpunished
Co-Admin Elite Freelancer Server
"Corwin02 spell-checked" for ackuracee

Post Sat Aug 16, 2003 5:04 pm

witness

Post Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:39 pm

Amen Brotha

Post Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:57 pm

A few months back when I was looking into loading up a mod package on Seattle Based, I got a huge amount of feedback from my server users that basically asked me not to. It is true, that at least for now, the vast majority of the FL community likes a clean server.

Visit my server
24/7 Seattle Based
[email protected]

Post Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:51 pm

This might be weird - but haven't you guys linked up?? As in your the two of the 'big 3' (seattle based, Elite and calgary) - there may be more - but i don't hear of any others more than the frequency i hear these names. It might be strange, but for persistent troublemakers When you log there IP - forward it to the other admins as soon as poss , so you can continue to ban them before they strike yours..or do you do this already / think that this isn't fair? If they were banned once - then fair enough - but several times?? Surely a cross board ban from several of the most popular servers would disuade all but the most destructively minded people from trying again!
Just a thought......
Chips
p.s - i meant this like Jolt does it. If you can't provide an explanation then banned from several?

Post Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:55 am


a cross board ban from several of the most popular servers
.

Now that would get me banned from seattle *scary face*

I have to give my thumbs up to all of you, even stinger (that was on my clan KOS list for quite a few time), this is completely cheap, ridiculous... its only a game..and now ppl do terrorism on servers and make demands?! Its just a game...

My 2 cents

Post Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:17 pm


But I for one enjoy playing Freelancer exactly as it was designed in out of the box condition and I feel if we asked the MP community much more than half would agree


I agree Stinger =).

JF_Crude
Proud member of the Jade Falcons

Alizao! I shall avenge you. Bretonians must die!

Edited by - DeaconCrude on 18-08-2003 18:18:46

Edited by - DeaconCrude on 18-08-2003 18:19:05

Edited by - DeaconCrude on 18-08-2003 18:19:16

Post Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:32 am

All of the above makes me glad I gave up Multiplayer. Now I just mod and play single-player....

Post Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:25 am

Hi all,
Concur with major banning across all servers, Re: my Calagary 24/7 post. Again in another post, as I say, if you are asked a question then be polite and invite a scan if you have nothing to hide. In my Cps worth if they argue or try any other tactic, ban. period. This will stop em, nuke em till they glow and feed the remains to the depths.

Post Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:40 pm

Awed and Inspired. Finally some decnecy. Cross-server bannin by IP of losers who try to kill the server. Also, have played/still play occasionally on 24/7 Seattle. Lovin it there, but Browclopsia is home.

See you later!

Hail Ceasar! Leader of the Free Peoples of the Holy Roman Empire.

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