that's all Toy is looking for a place where people can discuss such things
yet nobody even wants to help with that
if they did help this topic would die alot quicker and others wouldn't have to come and flame so much

I would still be interested in such a site as well

got the ability to put the cloak on a ship just can't toggle it off and on yet
besides if I could find a way to set that up I might be able to do the same with a seond shield like I have been looking for

As i've said before for those of us who actually have fully working versions of this item, it's an admin tool and can also be incorporated into role play assuming you have a bunch of trusted admins. Imagine a Star Trek scenario where you have half a dozen admins as Romulans being chased by Federation ships with full cloaking and de-cloaking going on, loadsa fun lol

The only way to get the cloak apart from working it out for yourself is to goto certain admin sites which will give this out if you're a recognised admin from a recognised server. The reason most normal players can't find these sites is that they are *** FOR ADMINS ONLY *** with good reason as mentioned before. These sites do exist for those that doubt it, i should know, i'm a member of most of them.

Someone has stated in this thread already about why even have the cloak at all? Because dedicated anti cheat server software while efficient, is not totally foolproof. There's nothing wrong with sneaking up on people to see if they're up to no good if it's for the benifit of the server and the only way you're gonna do that is if you're cloaked.

It's a matter of personal choice if you use the cloak or not, some server admins use them, some don't but i still think while it's ok to discuss it's potential use as is being done here (which makes a pleasant change that it can be discussed on LR), still better if it's not released to the masses as last thing servers need right now is hordes of cloaked 12 yr olds wondering why they're all suddenly getting banned for cheating lol.



Edited by - Gibbon on 2/15/2007 12:55:29 AM

I'm still interested in the cloak but, since it is so hard to get ahold of I'm looking for other mods as well to help as an admin
I doubt I'd get in on any admin only sites as my server has only been around for a couple months and has a little over 50 players so, I probably wouldn't be known at all a by anyone on such a site
would it be possible to get some addresses for some of those sites to try and see if they'd let me join?

I wonder why nobody has ever tried abusing some of the hidden uber weapons and shields yet
afterall who cares if they can see you if they can't hurt you nd are dead in a shot or two
let's hope noone ever tries to make a scandal of those items as well

Normally because those weapons are already in the banned list in the server software, assuming you set it up right of course. And if someone tries to create new uber weapons client side, these get picked up as well, specially by FLAC so not much point modifying those.

FL is more than 4 years old... i remember very well the chaos in the beginning of
i remember how difficult it was to set up working servers because they crashed (very likely because of mods)... i remember all the beam weapons, the cloaks and all the other stuff used by many kiddies during that time
this did last for more than 1 year and no rule on LR was able to prevent it

in the last 2 1/2 years the development of anticheats has started... some ini based... some with tools (such as FLCD or CFCP)
when i look back the last 2 years i cant remember a single case where cheats and such cloaks were used on my server and i think the situation on other servers is similar

but the main idea here is not to discuss about cloak cheats or give kiddies the chance to develop those
the idea is to use it for serious development that doesnt do any harm

im not visiting such admin sites even if im registered at 2 of them... honestly i dont see the need for them coz everything you need to know is here at LR



oh and no its not just transparent textures (that wouldnt work good coz cant activate/deactivate that good)

till we cannot lock weapon use during cloak, it's hard to speek of that's .. but as soon as we find a way, to lock weapon use as cruise speed, maybe we could rediscuss about it ...

make the cloak use much energy and the weapons wont work

If a server isn't protected against cloaks by now then we can't help them. IC has been blocking them for a long time and is freely available. There are lots of other free tools that stop the use of the cloak as well, so I doubt we'd ever see the "madness" of four years ago reoccur.

We use cloaks on Asgard on our admin ships and for certain RP events with Nomads (piloted by admins) flying Battleships, Gunboats and Fighters, all with working cloaks. With the right rules in place to keep it fair, the events are some of the most interesting I've ever been a part of.

The only thing I (and many other) server admins are afraid of is losing the cloak as an admin-only tool for catching and watching for cheaters. You all know the reasons for this and thats all I'll say on the subject.

that's what I was hoping to get ahold of it for just admin use on my server
btw, if you want to check out some decent custom templates for FLShell my server is "Dark Magician's server"
you can always give me info when I'm on as my Admin character, usually on Monday nights I try to stop in with one of my best friends

I also tend to play alot on Sunday evenings as well

how exactly did the cloaks work? what did they do? was a ship using them completely undetectable? using part of that code, could you make ships undetectable by radar but still visible?

AVAST! HERE BE GEEKY PIRATE HUMOR!

A=pi*arr²

what's the big deal with leaving cloaking info banned here?
almost every server has anti-cheat software running that will bann you for using it anyway
so if a few of us want to risk ruining our own servers with it, you guys shouldn't care one way or another cause we can't cause trouble on your favorite servers (lest we risk banning)
in the same respect why don't you then have stuff about uber shields and armor banned as well, even though it's banned from player use on other servers
that idea would make just as much sense, in all honesty
what do you have to lose by sharing the info? Nothing since we'd get autobanned if we abused it anyway
I may have missed the big cloak scare but, it seems you guys need to get over it and move on, afterall if we used cloaks we couldn't bother you on your favorite servers anyway (ie. anti-cheat programs will auto-bann you for it)
you really need not be scared anymore, it makes no sense
all we really are looking for is a way to use the ability on our own servers, not a way to messup other people's servers
if we can't figure it out on our own, chances are we won't be able to mod it good enough to use on a server with anti-cloak programs running
just throw us a bone here, please!

merlinthewizard, IMO you are now getting close to pushing this to far. As you have been made aware, this topic has been off limits here on TLR and for good reason.

You are now bording on bashing everyone on this site because this subject has been and is still taboo and is stated in the rules of the site in numerous spots. This topic has been allowed to carry on as stated by some of the moderators and admins. However, the path you are now going down may turn this topic off.

Yes, there are places out there on the net where you can get your hands on this. TLR has not and is not the place which again has been stated.

It is not that server admins are scared, they just like not having to worry about a newer version of the cloak not coming out to be used illegaly in game.

the fact that we discuss about this topic without it being closed on sight is a big developement already

but dont go too far... there is a line that shouldnt be crossed