A really nice, useful...glitch

Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:45 am by Lethal Dosage

I think the player just has a custom faction listing, not listed under a title. I was thinking this because the freelancers rep is shown as individual faction listings in mpnewcharacter:

[Player
name = %%NAME%%
;initial_rep = %%FACTION%% <------- This is commented out in unmodded FL, because the rep is defined below as individual values like:

house = 0.91, li_n_grp
house = 0.91, li_lsf_grp
house = 0.65, li_p_grp
house = 0, br_n_grp

Under the initial rep, you can remove the semi-colon (; ) and place a rep there, like li_n_grp. The starting player will then start with the rep of that faction (be sure to remove the individual values first though, or the game will crash, having two rep definitions)

etc.

Edited by - Lethal Dosage on 2/7/2005 8:47:30 AM

Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:47 am by Mephistopheles

Yeh, and if you leave the %%FACTION%% but remove the semicolon, it will take the faction defined in newcharacter.ini. All those macros refer to that file, you can either directly set something up in the mpnewcharacter.fl file or use those macros and refer to the newcharcter.ini.
In other words, the player is not a faction "%%FACTION%%", that's just a macro to refer to a different place.

Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:20 pm by Ricardius

Okay...so where do I find this in single player...it's not in New Character ini...
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Okay scratch above, I found the newplayer.fl file....so how do I open it? What tool should I use?

Edited by - Ricardius on 2/7/2005 1:34:15 PM

Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:06 pm by Mace_166

I think newplayer.fl is encoded like the save games. You need to get the save game editor for it. The other one the mp... isn`t and u can just use notepad.

Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:36 pm by Ricardius

I thought so, but I wasn't sure....I have the save game editor, but I've had no luck getting it to encode back saved games....but....I'll give it another try.

Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:48 am by Ricardius

Okay....I got it....sorta....

This is what I can do. First off, I can't get the save game editor to convert files back for me, so I stopped trying to alter the newcharacter fl file. I can't seem to get the above idea to work, so maybe someone else can do better than I.

However, I have figured out, at least, how to be able to change Freelancer A1-1, to Navy A1-1.

I have OpenSp mod by Xerex running. Then open the initalworld ini. Using BinuQ, look at the first listing of factions. That should be Navy.

Move the [Group bracketed tag up into the cluster with the locked gate listings. Then move the nickname up as well, making it flush with the Group tag.

It will look something like this...

blah, blah, blah....Li01_to_Ew01_hole [Groupnickname = li_n_grp ids_name = 196846
ids_info = 66200

Everything needs to be flush. Save, and close, Reopen. You should see [Groupnickname=li_n_grp colored BiniQ-Green. If it's blue, it won't work.

Now, I've tried other factions, it crashed the game. So, from what I see, this is the only one that will work....but I'm sure you code wizards can find a better way, or avenue to get others to work.

As an insight, I recreated my accidental discovery of this while I was using the Faction creator tool. It was this tool that created this the first time as well. All I did with the tool was create the faction for the initialworld ini, and cut and pasted from the tool to the ini file.

Let me know if anyone else can reproduce this....I've been able to go back and forth putting it in to work, and taking it out with no effect to my saved games....

Edited by - Ricardius on 2/11/2005 6:49:10 AM

Edited by - Ricardius on 2/11/2005 6:50:13 AM

Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:51 pm by -vamp-

i hav an idea: how about you get the faction you want, highlight there block of text, cut it, then paste it above navy, then repeat the steps ricardus said

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Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:59 pm by Ricardius

Tried that....doesn't work. Even tried, thinking it dealt with a hiearchy, made sure it all was in a proper order in the empathy and faction prop files as well....no go....

Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:08 pm by Ricardius

Okay, this is all I can find to get the call sign to change from Freelancer A1-1 to Navy A1-1. I've gone high and low, and I can't seem to get anything else to work. So.......

I have OpenSp mod by Xerex running. Then open the initalworld ini. Using BinuQ, look at the first listing of factions. That should be Navy.

Move the [Group bracketed tag up into the cluster with the locked gate listings. Then move the nickname up as well, making it flush with the Group tag.

It will look something like this...

blah, blah, blah....Li01_to_Ew01_hole [Groupnickname = li_n_grp ids_name = 196846
ids_info = 66200

Everything needs to be flush. Save, and close, Reopen. You should see [Groupnickname=li_n_grp colored BiniQ-Green. If it's blue, it won't work.

Now, I've tried other factions, it crashed the game. So, from what I see, this is the only one that will work....but I'm sure you code wizards can find a better way, or avenue to get others to work.

If any of you can figure something else out to make it work better, wonderful, I'd be very interested to hear it...at least now you can work for two groups....as a Freelancer or as a Navy Pilot.

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