Possibly a discussion area on possible legitimate uses of existing technology, and how it could be modified at adaped to be balanced with the rest of the game, without presenting an unfair advantage.
I think it would be a good way to brainstorm, without revealing code, and allowing us to speak our minds without making people mad.

then again, this sort of thread DOES belong in the SS&F forum

exactly!
it would be perfect for all you out there who want to discuss this matter.
and after all, why should'nt we have one here at TLR?



Liam 'shadow505' O'Neill also known as: alien#01,{SH}leader, razzzor-Falcon.

>> A word of caution <<

Tread softly here, there will not be any dicussion about cloaking - period.. at least nothing technical anyway.. fine if you wanna discuss uber shields and weapons ....

Harrier

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LOOK IM JUST PUTTING DOWN MY IDEAS, WHAT SHOULD I DO TO GET YOU TO ANSWER ME? WHY CANT WE HAVE A FORUM WHERE THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE ALLOWED??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

sorry for my aggresion but im getting p**sed off!

Chill out Shadow. All Harrier did was warn people to avoid cloak discussions so this thread wont need to be locked or deleted. So take a chill pill, we didn't make the rules.

ok, sorry.
all i meen is that this could be opened up in a private section of the forums, where we
who dont discuss dont have to but still letting the others who do want to be able to do so.
why cant this be made? thats all im asking

Is there any way of having the posts approved by the admin before it shows on that forum? It wud mean more work by admin, but at least there wud b no chance of any code leaking onto the forum.
How hard can it be to make an uber shield anyway?

It's too easy indeed, that's the problem. I don't understand why people still come here and ask for uber stuff...

What i meant was having a philosohpical discussion on cloaking, without anyone revealing code... thus it will just be ideas
What harm could that do?

Well here's my philosophical view on cloaking: It needs proper balance, which FL is totally lacking. Not only should you be unable to fire while cloaked, but possibly also be unable to cruise, and cloaking and decloaking should take some take, in which shields should be inactive and ou vulnerable. And, sadly, even if this could be done, cheaterscould abuse the code to change it into a way that makes them invincible. Cloaking itself is not bad. But cloaking in Freelancer is horrible, because there is no way to proper enable them for players with some REAL ingame balance.

I recall a game, can't remember which one, where they had a cloak, but you could still see an outline of the enemy, and a prismatic effect as it moved about.
If FL's was like that, I don't think it would be a problem.

The problem is...
People want to cloak, and then blast everything with impunity.
In singleplayer, by yourself, it could be done, but why?
Simply use "GOD" mode, and do the same thing.
In Multi-player, it's kinda cowardly, if ya ask me.
It smacks of all those cheats that hit the internet when multi-player first started.
And then, when the companies started trying to fix programs to stop cheaters...
The clanners began.
You know the ones...
They've played the game so friggin' much, they know the best setups, the best tactics, and they gang-bang anyone that doesn't join them.
They've ruined many an online game!

Cloaking is like that...
It's just another way for those cheatin' sob's to get an unfair advantage over everyone else.

Sure, it's nice to win.
But it's even nicer when it's a win you earned!

Which is why I don't play online.
To dang many cheaters, and clanners, who feel they have to win at any, and all costs!

But, I guess...
When you're a loser...
(In real life.)
You'll do anything to be a winner at something.

Watch your 6!

I think any discussion on these topics leads to the inevitable comment of "how would we get that into a mod" or "does somebody know how blah blah blah can be changed in the ini files" (or something like this)
Believe me it will happen somewhere in the discussion and that's when the topic is locked.
Then people get disapointed and start yelling about censorship.

Best just to leave it alone than respawn another batch of cheaters, be it unwitingly or not.