Hello,

I too am having a problem with mission 8. I have tried a couple different strategies, including telling all of Alpha Wing to engage a Torpedo Bomber as soon as it appears. I really sucks that I am the only one fighting torps. When Enriquez asks 'What's going on 45th? We took another hit!' I am asking the same question myself! Where is my support ? Klaus must know that the torpedo bombers are more important to kill than the fighters..why doesn't he assist? Also, if the Reliant can use the flak guns from the torpedoes launched by the other capship, why can't the very same flak guns assist me in shooting down the very same torpedoes?

I don't like to compare games, but Freespace 2 has an excellent wingman command, Protect My Target. All I would have to do is make the Reliant my target and tell Alpha Wing to protect it with their lives, engaging *anything* that is closing on the Reliant. True, ignoring the fighters would get a couple shot down, but they would be close to the Reliant so that pickup would be easy.

I like this game, but it irritates me that I am the only one that is out there trying to accomplish the objectives. The same problem happens when the objective appears to shoot all the turrets. I completely ignore the fighters on my tail and work the turrets. I ask for help multiple times.. but no help ever appears.

FYI if you are thinking that the 'Protect My Target' would make Alpha Wing also engage the enemy capship, Freespace 2 also has an 'Ignore my Target' command.

I am not saying that I prefer one over the other nor am I putting down Starlancer, but a protect target command is obvious and I don't understand why it was not included.

Thanks for listening,

SMATZ
P.S. Sorry for long post.

Edited by - smatz on 03-03-2003 13:40:41

Forget the AI. It sucks. The mission IS beatable, just read my and everybody else's suggestions above.

i had a lot of trouble with this one too. What i found was use a coyote with one jackhammer and the rest screamers. blast the shield generator on krasnaya with the jackhammer, take out some turrets and then a couple seconds after you hear that torps were launched from the krasnaya, burn in the direction of the planet(neptune?). Anyway, the torp bombers jump in and if you got it right, one of them will be within 100k of you and you can kill it easily. After that you can go for another bomber(but it'll usually have shot at least 1 torp before it dies) or just go torp hunting. when the reliant tells you to take out the turrets on the krasnaya, just kill them in the order that they show up in on the targeting screen. The rest of the mission is pretty easy, and after all that work, the krasnaya makes one satifying explosion

I found that by burning towards the rear of the reliant straight away where the krasnaya will appear you can get to the krasnaya pretty quickly. Then have some fun with the shield generator followed by turrets, engines and any pesky fighters that get annoying. Once the word hits that bombers are arriving just burn to the nearest one and dispatch it whist targeting the torpedo (or keeping an eye on) he will undoubtedly krasnayadly launch. Then torp hunt.
If you are having too much trouble with the torps get a few locking missiles (I forget the name as I'm updating some stuff at the mo!!) and fire one per torp. don't wait to see if they will hit just press T for the next torp. and work your way through. Once this is done go and have fun with the krasnaya
Hope this helps

Skymouse


Edited by - skymouse on 03-03-2003 11:34:12

Edited by - skymouse on 03-03-2003 11:35:20

This culled from experience with the mission set at Medium Difficulty--

I had played up to the point that I was able to run the mission in a Mirage, sporting that big honkin' space-gun in her nose. There are three torp boats making the attack, and they let off the fish singly. That means that at any one volley, you have three torps inbound on the Reliant. Press 'T-T-T' to cycle through the three bombers and lock onto the first torp. Get the crosshairs in on the lead box of the torp, and set up a shot. At Medium Diff, I'm able to kill a torpedo with a single shot from the Mirage's neutron particle cannon. Down goes one torp, target the second and shoot. Go for number three. Now, the three boats let off the second volley. Lather, rinse, repeat. Wait for the third volley, then deal with the fourth volley. Four waves of three torps each, and you're done with the torpedo attack. That's when it's high time to turn the Coalition capital ship into a floating target.

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