Some silly things in SP Freelancer

Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:59 pm by LoWang

I played Freelancer and now at the end I think, I gave it too much attention and concentration which this game does not deserve!
For example I still checked the reputation and thinked about it. Checked every enemy ship and read every group's history and info, BUT most of this had no effect on the future events in my progress. Reputation changed totally nonsensely and I gave up to understand its movements soon.
For example once I was on the Lane Hackers base and my rep with them was quite good although I killed tens of them before. But this is not as strange as what happened then! A few missions after, the Lane hackers were my enemies again! WIthout any action from my side! The same thing with any other group! My rep with them was moving without any noticable sense

One of the funniest thing were rogues! I was killing those dumbs by hundreds but then I met their mighty leader and all rogues suddendly appeared to be unbelievably good pilots and the biggest saviors of the world! What a difference

How can such a noble man as a rogue leader (I don't remember his name already) let his men to be slaughtered all over Liberty in so weak ships when he has so many good pilots flying Anubises who do nothing and we cannot see them anywhere in a sirius sector? Only if you are with them on a mission.
The whole story is really deep and quite impressive but when you take a bigger look at it, you realize many things are quite silly.
The whole world of Freelancer is a world of permanent battle where someone die almost every second. I just wonder how can those factories make new ships so fast? And why can be new pilots born so fast that they can kill each other so often?

Why do newspaper write about so uninteresting thing as a ship crash when tens of ships are being destroyed right behind the window of a station where I read that news?

I tried to understand all groups's intentions and reasons why they do and think what they and think and realized that a majority of them came to crime because of those aliens. When the story ended I noticed another baffling thing: nothing has changed

All groups just did the same as before despite the situation was completely different and many of them should just stop being enemy of other because their intentions are now totally irrelevant!

But the thing that mostly annoyed me: all my deeds throughout a story didn't make ANY impact on involved groups and suddendly I was again an enemy for almost all I was fighting side by side before!
THIS http://www.fi.muni.cz/~xzurek1/download ... cer107.jpg
is a real nonsense and the only thing that remain for me is laugh, because I can do nothing more seeing everything is in the old tracks and those silly rogues fly in front of my cannons again like there was no great victory and understanding...

Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:49 pm by Balthazar Furious

Your first post and it's full of complaints, great start.

For example once I was on the Lane Hackers base and my rep with them was quite good although I killed tens of them before. But this is not as strange as what happened then! A few missions after, the Lane hackers were my enemies again! WIthout any action from my side! The same thing with any other group! My rep with them was moving without any noticable sense

Did it occur to you for one second that the lane hackers only protected you that once because they hate the bounty hunters more than they hate you? That they were watching your progress and decided not to associate with you again because it might attract too much attention?

One of the funniest thing were rogues! I was killing those dumbs by hundreds but then I met their mighty leader and all rogues suddendly appeared to be unbelievably good pilots and the biggest saviors of the world! What a difference

That's funny, I don't recall meeting the actual leader of the rogues. It says they are a motly assortment of petty criminals, not an organisation with a main leader. I also don't recall flying a mission with rogues on my side, when did that happen? If so, can you give me a specific time?

The whole world of Freelancer is a world of permanent battle where someone die almost every second. I just wonder how can those factories make new ships so fast? And why can be new pilots born so fast that they can kill each other so often?

Each house owns 5-10 planets each. That's planets, i.e spheres full of billions of people. There would be hundreds of thousands more ships than you actually see in space. Imagine how many factories there would be making new ships.

I tried to understand all groups's intentions and reasons why they do and think what they and think and realized that a majority of them came to crime because of those aliens.

What have you been smoking? There are terrorist groups who want to change the government, groups of people that are just plain criminals, groups that enforce law. Groups that are fighting because they hate foreigners and believe them to be the reason they are poor. How did aliens come into the picture? Most people weren't even aware of aliens.

I am just a worthless liar,
I am just an imbecile,
I will only complicate you,
Trust in me and fall as well.

Edited by - fisch on 6/2/2004 7:05:53 PM

Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:05 pm by LoWang

Maybe I unfortunatelly understood it wrong but I think rogues had something common with the Order! Weren't they on the same side at least?

Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:08 pm by Balthazar Furious

It was suggested at one point in the beginning of the game that they suspected the order had links with organised crime but that's all.

I am just a worthless liar,
I am just an imbecile,
I will only complicate you,
Trust in me and fall as well.

Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:49 am by Puke Barwalker

Some members of all factions are in the Order, including the Rogues. But mainly the Rogues still hate you. Did you notice that you could land on some bases where the Order was, even though the faction still hated you?

And the Lane Hackers only liked you when you were a wanted criminal. When you became a good guy again, the Lane Hackers hated you again.

Jose Chavez: "Trent! It's good to see my kind of scum."

Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:53 am by Zveroboy

I got round the whole hate crime thing but not doing any missions.

Doing missions isn't the only way to level up, looting the various wrecks gets you three things:

-> Increases your worth (being as the stuff is now yours) and helps you level up.
-> You get *free* weapons and cargo. Ok, granted that some of the weapons are too high a class, but you can still sell them or hold on to them.
-> Because you're not doing missions, your reputation isn't made any worse. Granted that some factions may attack you (e.g. Corsairs attacking me when I went after the wrecks in Honshu), but it won't make your rep any worse (unless you kill the attackers).

Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:57 am by Wash

He has the Liberty Rogues mixed up with the Outcasts, and probably thought Colonel Kress was the head of the Outcasts. Kress works for The Order and was a guest of the Outcasts at Cali Base.

"I'm bugging out. I don't like the idea of being MOWED DOWN."

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:32 am by Forinec

LoWang, I believe you're referring to Orillion as the leader of the Order. Just a little misunderstanding, that's all.

I feel that if you work for something like the Liberty Navy and attack . . . say, Bretonia forces, you're pretty much representing the Navy, causing terms between Bretonia and Liberty to become hostile. Now wouldn't that be fun being able to influence the reputation of entire organizations?

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Edited by - Forinec on 6/3/2004 10:32:56 AM

Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:35 pm by ???VivaHispa?a16!!!

Don't confuse the storyline universe with the post story line universe, they have little in common. The game designers wanted to make a simple default sirrius that they could plug a player in post game and in MP that they only had to tweak slightly for the storyline. That would explain why the news never changes, they don't want to program in so many stories when a dozen or so will be sufficent. As for the criminals disliking you agian after the story, what would be the fun of post SP FL if everyone loved you? --- VH16

I am Nobody; Nobody is Perfect; Therefore, I am Perfect

Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:12 am by LoWang

Yes I meant Orillion! I really thinked rogues and order are working togehter...don't know why. Must check the old savegames

I remember Orillion's talk with me at the end of the story. he told me I am his secret connection in Liberty now. But I didn't realize how to contact order then. Is it possible to meet any of them after the story ends?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:55 pm by Eike

Kress is not the leader of the Outcasts. It's another guy but I won't give any details because that would be a spoiler...

Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:11 pm by J Dawg

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Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:20 pm by ConanBryan

I mean no disrespect when I say that it is the most fun when you are surprised, I look forward to the fights with transports or fighters. To me it just makes the universe be more exciting.

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