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The Rheinlanders

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Post Tue Apr 29, 2003 4:31 pm

The Rheinlanders

Have you noticed that on all the Rheinland stations and planets, all the people speak with an American accent except for story-relevant characters? It's a shame they couldn't get the right accents for the right people. But not a big problem

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Post Tue Apr 29, 2003 5:27 pm

yeah, but thats just as in all of the 3 other "houses".

well, i think in the german version all ppl with speak the best "High German" anyway... without much accent

Post Tue Apr 29, 2003 5:40 pm

actually ive had bretonia people speak in a british accent, but thats about it. dunno why they left german accents out of the bars, maybe the bartender cant understand em

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"Only the dead have seen the end of War."
- Plato

Post Tue Apr 29, 2003 6:41 pm

Maybe because the "german accent" in Freelancer sounds more like some eastern european accent.

Post Tue Apr 29, 2003 7:45 pm

tis is so intaiarlie rait!

Gig

Post Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:23 pm

The accents are pretty unimportant anyway. It isn't very likely that any accents you heard in the 31st century would be anything you would recognize. Accents and speech have changed noticeably just in our own records. The 14th century English of William Shakespeare bears little resemblance to the modern version of the tongue. The pronunciation guides that were written to support the transitional tongue are even less familiar. It isn't just English that has done this either, it's true of all modern tongues.

Just take the accents with a grain of salt because these are tongues that, at the very least, are based on relic languages from a race that has been dead for 800 years. The people whose native tongues had formed the foundation for the Freelancer languages won't even exist to us for another 300 plus years.

The idea that Rheinlanders would sound German, Bretonians would sound English Or Libertines would sound American is just for fun. The speech of people born 1,200 years in our future would no more resemble our speech than our own would resemble that of 9th century Saxons. There is no way these accents would sound familiar to our ears--they simply couldn't, human speech isn't that stable.

Post Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:33 pm

hmm, i wonder, if they had accents in the game, would the liberties be punked out

Shigetah shigatah shwa[!

Post Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:36 pm

The English accidents, err accents in Freelancer don't sound anything like the British accents I've heard, they sound more like a bad rendition of Dick-Van-Dyke from the film Bedknobs and Broomsticks.

Following on from what Gig said, if we went further back than Shakespear, old English is indeed very different from modern English, and let's not forget that the English tribe originally came from Germany (as documented by Tacitus 1AD) and settled the Romano-Celtic island of Briton in 450AD (led by a gallant chap named Hengist lol).

Here's an example of how our English language has changed over the years...

Old English...
Dynedan scildas, hlude hlummon. Paes se hlanca gefeah wulf in walde, ond se wanna hrefn, waelgifre fugel. Wistan begen paet him oa peodguman pohton tilian fylle on faegum.

Modern English translation...
Shields clanged, resounded loudly. The lean wolf in the wood rejoiced at it, and the dark raven, bloodthirsty bird. They both knew that warriors intended to provide for them their fill of doomed men.

Jolly little snippet isn't it?

Hengist.

Post Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:41 am

hehehe well I've said the the voice acting was a little suspect But its no real worry. And Tobias at least has a very good welsh accent

Post Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:21 am

That's because they hired an actual Welsh actor (John Rhys-Davis) to play Tobias. What I don't understand is why they didn't hire an English actor to play Trent, who's supposedly from Leeds.

And about languages changing, well, that's true, of course. It's just not entirely relevant, when the designers obviously decided they wanted people from the different Houses to speak with 20th-century accents, as they do fairly consistently (except for Trent) and not too shabbily throughout the SP campaign. It's also obvious that some of the generic voicesets are supposed to sound British or Japanese (I haven't noticed any attempts at German yet, but that doesn't mean they aren't there), they're just horribly done by third-rate actors who took an "accents 101" course last time they were unemployed. Saying that there's no reason we'd recognize a German accent in the 31st century is no excuse for doing a botched 20th-century accent in my book.

Post Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:20 pm

tobias is welsh?
that sounded like russian to me

(note that i never heard any welshman speak before...)

Post Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:40 pm

Ah! I thought John Rhys-Davis' voice rang a bell from somewhere now I know. Yeah bit of a cop out not having a Brit doing Trent as you say. James Masters (Spike from Buffy) would have been a good choice for Trent. He is an american but dose a bloody good einglish accent!!

Post Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:01 pm

I think you'll find that John Rhys-Davies was born in England to Welsh parents, and spent only a portion of his younger years living in Wales.

He now resides in the USA and Isle of Man. This makes his link to Wales tenuous. I've never considered him as being Welsh, or having a Welsh accent, so to say they hired a Welsh actor to do Tobias (haven't got that far in the game, so can't really express my opinion on his rendition of the Welsh accent), is incorrect.

Edited by - cupidstunt on 30-04-2003 23:05:12

Post Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:30 pm

Hmm...well..i got a little fact for you all. In history class today, we were reading about WWII, and it said something about hitler putting troops in Rhineland, which was near the border between germany and france. I was itching to tell the whole world why the rheinlanders and freelancer were german, but, of course that would make me sound like a nerd I always thought they were german, cuz the people in bars have german names, and the planet names, mainly because of the names of stuff. Plus rheinland looks and sounds german...oh well, now you know.

Post Thu May 01, 2003 12:25 am

JT, you've shown a level of world knowledge and political awareness only an American could possibly display !!

Maybe tomorrow they'll give you a history lesson about TellyTubbyland; it's a little further south than Rhineland, but not quite as far as Cloudcuckooland !!

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