Ok got a question for ya then. Is this alteration functonal for SP or MP? If it is for MP...when you say "edit" all the values for Xenos, is it under their specific faction heading? Or under their entry in every other factions data?

thx

Rav

Or if you prefer a 'happy ever after' type of ending, open up the m13.ini file in the missions\m13 folder and scroll down to where it (re)sets your faction ratings after you finish the story and set it so that they are all neutral or friendly. While you're at it you might want to change your reward too. 20,000 credits for saving the president's life and saving the colonies? Give me a break!! That isn't even enough for me to re-arm after opening the hyper-gate!

Ya know...if this game is meant to be modable.....it would be nice if DA would give us a guide for the different INIs...

Rav

Change the stuff under the xenos group itself. Not everyone elses

Rest has been deleted. Lost my temper.

Edited by - Reynen on 06-04-2003 06:04:25

Hmmm...changed the faction data to -1 fir every faction in Xenos faction listings...zero change in game. What might I be doing wrong?

Rav

Excuse me but what the hell is your problem? Aside from my alternative faction rep edit I was only saying that it would be nice to have a comprehensive guide to ALL the variables in ALL the INIs. So unless you have a good guide to (all) the variables in the mission INIs or can post a guide on creating escort missions then maybe you should climb down off your high horse and not make assumptions. I agree with everyone else that what you have posted is very helpful, but no one outside of the DA team knows what ALL the variables are for, THAT is what I was talking about.

On a different note, has anyone tried to change the rewards you get for story or random missions. It might be interesting to get weapons or commodities instead of credits.

-ShadowStar SunSlayer

Reynen,

Sorry, but it doesn't seem to work in SP.

Do I change all the values, including the Events entries?

My entries look like: empathy_rate = li_n_grp, -1

Thanks,

Dog

I changed the Events entries and it works perfectly.

Thanks,

Edited by - SabreDog on 05-04-2003 07:25:17

Well, I'm just getting into this whole editing thing. I finally managed to find the Freelancer ini uncompressor, but I haven't a clue how to use it.

I type bini empathy.ini, but that appears to do nothing to change the empathy file.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Sorry but no one can do every single INI. You also caught me on a very bad day, sorry. I just get tired of doing stuff when people asks the same questions over and over again when the answer is right in front of them.

Try this for the xenos.

[RepChangeEffects
group = fc_x_grp
event = object_destruction, -0.25
event = random_mission_success, .100
event = random_mission_failure, -0.1
event = random_mission_abortion, -0.1
empathy_rate = li_n_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = li_lsf_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = li_p_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = br_n_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = br_p_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = ku_n_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = ku_p_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = rh_n_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = rh_p_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_shi_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_khc_grp, 0-0.75
empathy_rate = co_kt_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = br_m_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_me_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_be_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_rs_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_vr_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_ni_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = rh_m_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_ti_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_ic_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_ss_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_hsp_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_alg_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_os_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = co_nws_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_c_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_ou_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_rh_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_bd_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_j_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_h_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_m_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_b_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_g_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_lh_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_u_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_gc_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_lwb_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_fa_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_lr_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_or_grp, 0-0.75
empathy_rate = gd_gm_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_uk_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_n_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_ln_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_kn_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_rn_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_ouk_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_q_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = fc_f_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = gd_im_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = gd_z_grp, -0.75
empathy_rate = gd_bh_grp, -0.75

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Edited by - Reynen on 06-04-2003 06:05:27

interesting that you can actually become frendly with xenos too if you add to the group this line

empathy_rate = fc_x_grp, -0.75

This definetely changing the balance of the game, but doesn't works with multiplayer
I just think it's funny to kill xenos so they like you more
must be respect for power


Edited by - Racer on 06-04-2003 07:16:05

Short question: is this SP or MP? I ask because I copied and pasted what Reynen posted above, then went to load a SP save game (looooong after the storyline), went to Duray and blew up about a dozen Xenos, but it didn't change my rep's in the slightest. Or does this only work if you start a new game. like when you change Trent's appearance?

T448 ... out.

By the way, those who have put the empathy data to negative values (to make them love you for shooting them...), put the negative value high... however, remember these two things (as I experienced):

- shoot when not near any base or stationery platforms/bases, 'cause the second shot won't make them friendly, plus they will ask their friends (other factions) to help them hunt you.

- shoot ONCE (not with torpedo, as it may inflict second hit due to wide-area of explosion)

Hope this helps those who need to do this. Whatever versions and mods you got, these two things screwed up my faction levels, but they're ok when I avoid those two things above.

Cheers.

Well, I figured it out. After long last. Rarr.

Tell Kru he's doing a great job with the site Reynen. He's a good friend of mine from a bunch of online games we play together.

Edited by - Khalaith on 06-04-2003 16:00:59

what do I use to uncompress and edit the empathy.ini.


I tried notepad but got alot of boxes and everything was all weird.

Yes, i said weird.

OMG dude, do u even LOOK in the downloads section of this website? its called BINI QDU, just LOOK for something b4 asking, it might be right under your nose.