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FIX!!! For intermittent mouse / game lag + sounds problems

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Post Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:53 pm

FIX!!! For intermittent mouse / game lag + sounds problems

First of all, system specs:

Win2K SP4
P4 2.4C @ 2.4 GHz
512MB DDR800 SDRAM
ABit IS-7 (i865) MB w/integrated RealTek AC97 Audio / 3COM LAN
ABit Siluro GeForce4 Ti 4200 OTES 64MB (stock speed)
WD1000JB 100 GB 7200 rpm HDD (pri.)
WD800JB 80 GB 7220 rpm HDD (sec.)

So with that said, my PC _should_ run Freelancer properly. Of course, like so many of you, I had the unfortunate experience that it _didn't_. My problems were common - Partial to total loss of some game sounds (annoying but workable), and, much worse, the problem of lag. To give an example: The game would stop responding just for a moment, every second or two; if I were to move the mouse continuously across a menu screen, it would "sticK" every second or so. In flight, the same effect was very noticeable especially when I tried to do a hard turn - Again, everything would stop for just an instant, every second or two, thus making everything laggy and really unplayable.

Now, as for the sound fix, ElectricBrain and the ReadMe file are indeed correct - In order to get back full sound, all you need to do is remove every trace of l3codecp.acm from your hard disk and your registry, and reinstall the MS version of the Fraunhofer IIS MP3 codec, as included on the Freelancer CD. So far so good, I did that and got sound back.

Second step, fixing the lag - Well, I spent hours looking through forums and on the net, and if someone posted a fix, I didn't see it (and we all know how effectively MS supports their games, so...) So then I started playing around. Clearly in my case it wasn't an ATI video driver issue, but anyway I tried NVidia's 4x.xx and 5x.xx drivers, to no avail. I saw someone mention that with NVidia cards it might be a matter of adjusting how many frames ahead the card is allowed to render, having applied the CoolBits tweak that exposes some advanced controls in the Display control panel, or that maybe it was related to VSync (i.e. syncing frame-rate with vertical refresh). Tried that - No good. I saw people talking about virus scanners and background programs maybe being an issue, so I killed every single application and process not absolutely necessary for Win2K to run, and disabled a bunch of services. No good. Then I went into the Display control panel, on a whim, and dropped the video acceleration as low as it would go while still allowing me to run Freelancer (if you put it to either of the two lowest settings, it doesn't even think you have a 3D card ). _Still_ no good. I ran SysInternals' Registry and File monitors in the background while running Freelancer, to see if it was repeatedly attempting to access a certain file or registry key and having difficulties in doing so. STILL no good.

So finally, I thought to myself, hmmm, sound hardware seems to cause more problems with this game than anything else. What happens if I drop the SOUND acceleration level? Well, folks, THAT is what finally fixed it. I went to the Sounds and Multimedia control panel, then to the Audio tab, and then to the Advanced Properties of my playback device, then to Performance, and I dropped the audio acceleration level to rock-bottom. And it WORKED!!!

I played around with this a bit more, and found that the right level for me (NOT to be confused with the right level for YOU - This may be hardware dependent) was to drop it to one notch below the "Recommended" level, i.e. position 2 of 4, if 4 is the maximum level of acceleration and 1 is the minimum.

After that, smooth sailing. The mouse pointer is still a little slow in the main menu, but all lagging is gone and from the first fix I have full sound as well. I hope this solves this problem for others as well - What a pain!!

PS - As it turns out, my system has a nasty habit of resetting the audio acceleration level to maximum (position 4 of 4) after every reboot, meaning that it may be necessary for you to reset this every time you start up your machine, before you play Freelancer, in order to avoid the problem manifesting itself again.

PPS - You can also adjust theaudio acceleration level by running DXDiag (Start-->Run-->dxdiag), clickong on the Sound tab, and changing the slider position there - This may be easier for folks.

PPPS - Since this experience, I've found that this tactic can solve similar lagging problems in other games as well! Chrome, for instance, a new FPS, also displayed this lagging problem for me, but dropping sound acceleration to the minimum level fixed it.

Good luck!

Arc Light

Edited by - Arc Light on 02-11-2003 22:37:21

Edited by - Arc Light on 03-11-2003 03:10:12

Edited by - Arc Light on 11-11-2003 06:02:41

Post Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:56 am

I had the same problems, and applied the same fix.

I downloaded the latest drivers for the AC97 sound card today, and the problem is now gone.

Just my $0.02, but it could just be the cardamine talking.
Violence isn't my only option. Its just what I do best.
Nil Mortifi Sine Lucre

Post Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:40 pm

Since this helped me, I figured I should post it.

Though I still have the "dialogue" bug (don't play SP much so I don't care), I tried to fix it the other day by deleting the l3codeca.acm files in system32, but that only made matters worse. I was confined to 20FPS in ALL RESOLUTIONS, which really sucked. So I needed to find out how to get those codecs back. The windows media redists didn't help, so I turned to the kazaa lite codec pack.

download it here, maybe it'll help some more people

http://a4.edskes.com/klcodec220f.exe

Post Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:31 pm

I run it on my laptop P3, 512 ram, 60 gig drive Nvidia geforce 2 and I have absolutly no problems ever the game worjed perfect out of the box.

Serious_Snipa
Serious_Gamer

Post Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:00 am

Hrm okay, recently got this game because folk say how 'cool' it is.
first running win98se/linux mandrake 8.2 (dual boot) (yeah yeah i know, but look at the problems you fellas have too) the win thing is just for video games
geoforce 3 ti200 w/128mb ac97 sound (thought that was the problem and put in a different sound card same problems)

512mb mem, blah blah blah typical stuff.
i'd have to open the case to remember the mb manufacturer.(too lazy at the moment)

this is what i have gotten from the moment i got the game to play (first it wouldn't authenticate the cd but there are issues it has with certain cdroms not listed in the readme. so no biggie get the crack for no cd huzzah! seems to work)

then it goes thru intros start new game click to go to the bar
and
FREELANCER caused an invalid page fault in
module L3CODECA.ACM at 0167:029795bb.
Registers:
i have tried everything on these boards assuming it to be a sound issue (duh)
tried a million things not on these boards. i can get farther by saving. loading the game it now will do 2 scenes of movies and the poof. same error.
i can then by saving every scene get on the first mission but when it comes to landing at pittsburg poof, no place to save before that you are in space.

i CAN get it to give a different error by jacking with well everything having to do with the codecs. same place i get same error in dacom.dll instead. but no matter what that is as far as i can go.

any ideas? suggestions? i'd have taken the damn thing back except for the policies on returns of games now, though i am about to find a shrinkwrapper soon.

on a side note anyone who ends up beating bill gates to death, try this first claim to the judge that he wasn't human therefore the laws regarding murder do not apply. next appeal to the jury ask your lawyer to ask them how many own computers with a ms os. after that file a civil suit against microsoft for the anguish they caused. now bill gates is dead you are free and possibly wealthy.
hrm, anyone have a baseball bat i can borrow?




Windows 98: n.
32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an
8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor,
written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.

Post Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:17 am

this whole time from dec 22 until jan 3rd (played for hours last night) was a big
waste of time. it was a virus that makes whatever is running point its 'working directory' elsewhere, randomly it seems. found out by giving up and going to play a different game and the places it saved the exported characters was odd. on that one i couldn't find (in game) the one i had just saved so saved again with an odd name did a search it was in windows/system, did it again and it was in yet another directory. dl'd a different virus checker, and voila, now everything works okay. drove me freakin crazy.



Windows 98: n.
32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an
8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor,
written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.

Post Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:45 pm

ty that worked for me
i was stumped



Blacksun

Post Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:31 pm

Thanks for the fix, I'll try it next time I can play.

Post Fri May 14, 2004 10:35 am

Thanks , Arc Light , my mouse cursor has been "sticking" in the in-game menus and such , and I'm going to try lowering the sound performance slider tonight
and see if that helps.
Thanks Again ,
katoc

Post Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:27 am

Thanks Man!! I had EXACTLY the same problem with the game freezing every few seconds, then unfreezing after a moment. It was getting really annoying and id died a lot in mulitiplayer cause of it, FINALLY its fixed by lowering the sound hardware acceleration by one notch, no more lags. Hats off to you guys for finding a solution!

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"i Ask that of all my prey"

"I just like the sound of it" ^_^

Post Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:35 am

I have a problem with the single player: I am at the mision where u r with Juni (at the beginning) and u have 2 go back 2 California Minor... I get out from that asteroid ... than a waipoint sends me 2 the planet. I start going 2 the planet... and when I am like 10.5 k distance from the planet 3 ships r staying in front of me and Juni and do nothing... I guess they supose 2 attack me but they r not doing anything... theyr name turns white and if i attack 1st I get Mission Fail. I tried 2 reinstall the FL but nothing ... same thing. What am i supose 2 do? pls send ure post reply at [email protected]

Post Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:02 am

Are you running a Mod? That mission goint to Cal Minor, the first time has no incounter, the second, short cut back to, has a trigger that must be tripped. If no mod, I would totally delete the game, folders and all and reinstall. The trigger must be tripped to continue the game.

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