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Post Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:52 pm

Freelancer-Starlancer

I do not think this has been mentioned therefore im going to mention it.

Shortly before you hit sprage or wjatever this planet is called , Juni says never before has she seen cloaking devices that "actually" work.

But in Starlancer the coalition and Alliance have cloaking ships fully working.
Maybe Starlancer was not before freelancer , maybe when the engineers in sirius completed work on cloaking devices , and some time later different engineers completed cloaing devices in sol. Also could this mean during the early years of the war when the coalition gained the upper hand is when they launched the sleeper ships.
Because as you know (If you have completed starlancer) that the Alliance won back mars and advanced forwards to titan.

Coming to the conclusion , Sol is not completely run by the coalition ?

Please give me your thoughts on this...

Post Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:08 pm

Freelancer and Starlancer are not connected (gameplay wise), no other then the intro.
Freelancer cloaks and Starlancer cloaks are not related in anyway.
Sol is now run by the Coalition, as far as we know.
After the War between the Coalition and the Aliance, the Coalition somehow gained the upper hand. It's near the end of the war that this happens.

They had to "Bend" the storyline a little to justify the launch of the five sleepers.
They should have let the Coalition launch 5 sleepers, but Americans made the game, so Americans (Liberty) obviously are the Heroes in Freelancer.

I hope I provided enough info here.

Edit: Damn spelling.

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Edited by - Nickless: Episode V on 22-12-2003 17:12:47

Post Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:13 pm

the only thing im glad didnt make it from one game to the other was those ££&£^£ ion cannons

Post Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:16 pm

Ah , i see ok , thanks.

Post Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:23 pm

Oh yeah they were connected. About the loss of cloak tech, there are a couple of explanations. Perhaps the cloaking technology is guarded fanatically by the House governments and not allowed to be sold to non-military factions. Or the sensor tech has evolved so much that SL-era cloaking is rendered obsolete.

Post Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:59 pm

Maybe the Starlancer one s are detectable now. They weren't fully cloaked in Stalncer (Just covered in a dark blue mask and under stealh) while in Freelancer they completely disappear (Though noteably those two Rheinlanders that join you breifly cloak to attack a capital ship and you CAN see them (their only transparent)). Any ideas?

Post Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:14 pm

I dont think when they were hurrying the launch of the 5 sleeper ships, they were even thinking of cloaks, 800 years after the sleeper ships arrive, Sirius is populated, it is quite possible that they never knew about cloaking technology, or, when they arrived, where even bothering thinking about it, they wre more likely trying to get eveything underway. They most likely had to recreat most things, and redevelop certain technologies, as the result of getting away from the coalition, and saving thier people.

Edited by - Duriel_LOP on 22-12-2003 18:16:11

Post Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:48 pm

If you ask me (which nobody will), SL and FL are connected. You have to consider that the sleeper ship wasn't equiped with all the mountains of research that the alliance had. The sleeper ships were ment to live in harmony, guns and weapons would not be emediutly needed.



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Post Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:33 pm

It kinda makes you think , Why the hell didnt they cloak the sleeper ships ?

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Post Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:20 pm

Because the energies required to cloak such massive vessels would make them easy to trace.

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Post Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:21 pm

you got that right americans are the heros

Post Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:37 pm

I got a line on the cloaking technology from the bartender on the Battleship Norfolk (Cambridge System: Bretonian territory). Apparently the various houses had experimented with cloaking technologies, but previous to the appearance of the new/improved Rheinland devices they required the power of 10 battleship cores to operate.

That explains why cloaking technology hasn't been seen in widespread use in the Sirius sector.

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Post Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:15 pm

@BlazeME

"The sleeper ships were ment to live in harmony, guns and weapons would not be emediutly needed."

That's the best spelling of the word 'immediately' I've ever seen !!

Post Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:17 pm

I think this has already been covered enough in this thread, but I'll throw in my two cents anyway.

If the Houses had cloaking technology only they kept it secret from non-military factions, as someone here suggested, Juni would not have been so shocked -- she is LSF. While that does not immediately mean that she must know of all secret government projects, it is possible that she was high-ranking enough to at least have heard rumours, if not been contracted to defend the secret once or twice. And she did know of experiments with the technology, going some way to prove the point.

Someone else said that Starlancer's cloaks probably wouldn't be considered true cloaks anymore. I think that's an accurate guess. They weren't too hard to spot then, 800 years on I'm sure sensors would have advanced more than enough to see them too. And they hadn't managed to cloak something as large as a capital ship, so there would still be an element of shock. And thus if this is the case, then the cloaking technology Juni is so surprised to see would be totally new; you can neither see nor detect it. And the fact that this would seem to require huge amounts of power (10 battleship cores, does a rumour somewhere suggest?) goes some way to demonstrating how effective sensors in Sirius have become.
If this is not the case, there are two other options:

1) The data on the cloaks developed by the Coalition and the Alliance had not been included on the sleeper ships. I would go with this one; there would be so much information to include on their computer data banks that cloaking their ships in a place where there were no enemies would not be a priority.

2) The data was included on the sleeper ship computers, but the computer records degraded in transit. Now if they still use MS Windows by then, this would be more likely than option 1. And I'm sure that their data banks did suffer some level of degredation. But I would assume this, although likely, to be less likely than the former.


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