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Where to buy and what to buy? (updated, again)

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Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:22 am

Where to buy and what to buy? (updated, again)

Recently I posted a message in which I explained how to become rich in no
time (trading with Niobium and Diamonds). Now I have the complete list of all
planets and stations in Freelancer universe, so I give this list to all of
you who are interested in which commodity makes more money. Some tell that
it's best to trade with Cardamine, until today I thought it was Niobum and
Diamonds, but it's hard to determine which is the best way. It's not just the
type of commodity that matters, a variety of other factors like how much you
must travel from one location to another (buy-sell), how much waypoints are
in question and whether or not there are hostile targets, are important as
well. It's all up to you to choose which commodity will you trade with.

First line shows commodity name, second where to buy it at the lowest price,
trird where it's best to sell it (based on price), fourth what profit would
you make, and the last line shows the best path which you should go (based on
the number of systems you must go through, before you reach destination). If
there are more places to buy from or sell to, they are seperated with commas
and the system they are in is placed in brackets. If there is only one
location then planet or station is separated from it's system by comma
(sorry, I couldn't make it more complicated!). All of the commodities are
sorted by profitability, so you can see what is best and what really sucks!
All numbers are calculated based on 275 units of cargo space (Dromedary
ship). So, traders, don't wait and get into business!

Alien Organisms (Highly perishable)
$100 Ruiz Base, Omicron Beta
$2,000 California Minor (California), Cambridge Research Station
(Cambridge), Willard Research Station (California)
$522,500 Profit
Best path: Omicron Beta -> Omicron Alpha -> Omicron Theta -> Omega-41 ->
Omega-5 -> Cambridge

Diamonds
$198 Freital Base (Omega-11), Ronnenburg Base (Omega-5)
$1,650 Planet New Tokyo, New Tokyo
$399,300 Profit
Best path: Omega-11 -> (Stuttgart or Dresden) -> New Berlin -> Sigma-13 ->
Honshu -> New Tokyo

Luxury Food (Highly perishable)
$160 Planet Cambridge, Cambridge
$1,600 Luxury Liner Hawaii, Sigma-19
$396,000 Profit
Best path: Cambridge -> Omega-5 -> Omega-41 -> Omicron Theta -> Sigma-17 ->
Sigma-19

Niobium
$160 Falkland Base, Tau-37
$1,600 Leipzig Station, Dresden
$396,000 Profit
Best path: Tau-37 -> Omicron Alpha -> Omicron Theta -> Omega-41 -> Omega-11
-> Dresden

Engine Components
$150 Planet Honshu, Honshu
$1,500 Arranmore Base, Dublin
$371,250 Profit
Best path: Honshu -> New Tokyo -> Kyushu -> (Tau-23 or Tau-29) -> Tau-31 ->
Leeds -> Dublin

Jump Gate/Trade Lane Parts
$140 Pueblo Station, Colorado
$1,400 Tau-31 Gate Construction Site, Tau-23
$346,500 Profit
Best path: Colorado -> (Kepler or Galileo) -> Shikoku -> Kyushu -> Tau-23

Light Arms
$140 Detroit Munitions, New York
$1,400 Planet Malta, Omicron Alpha
$346,500 Profit
Best path: New York -> Magellan -> Leeds -> Tau-31 -> Tau-23 -> Tau-37 ->
Omicron Alpha

Luxury Consumer Goods
$180 Planet Manhattan, New York
$1,440 Ainu Depot, Hokkaido
$346,500 Profit
Best path: New York -> Colorado -> (Kepler or Galileo) -> Shikoku -> (Kyushu
or New Tokyo) -> Hokkaido

Gold
$271 Arranmore Base, Dublin
$1,525 Tripoli Shipyard, Omicron Gamma
$344,850 Profit
Best path: Dublin -> New London -> Cambridge -> Omega-5 -> Omega-41 ->
Omicron Gamma

Cardamine
$300 Planet Malta, Omicron Alpha
$1,500 Planet Manhattan, New York
$330,000 Profit
Best path: Omicron Alpha -> Tau-37 -> Tau-23 -> Tau-31 -> Leeds -> Magellan
-> New York

Optronics
$140 Planet Honshu, Honshu
$1,329 Planet Cambridge, Cambridge
$326,975 Profit
Best path: there's no best path, you can go 5 ways (from Honshu to):
1. Sigma-19 -> Sigma-17 -> Omicron Theta -> Omega-41 -> Omega-5 -> Cambridge
2. Sigma-13 -> New Berlin -> Stuttgart -> Omega-7 -> Omega-3 -> Cambridge
3. Sigma-13 -> New Berlin -> Stuttgart -> Omega-7 -> Omega-5 -> Cambridge
4. Sigma-13 -> New Berlin -> Stuttgart -> Omega-11 -> Omega-5 -> Cambridge
5. Sigma-13 -> New Berlin -> Dresden -> Omega-11 -> Omega-5 -> Cambridge

Artifacts
$135 Cadiz Base, Omega-5
$1,282 Planet Manhattan, New York
$315,425 Profit
Best path: Omega-5 -> Cambridge -> Leeds -> Megellan -> New York

Beryllium
$144 Cardiff Mining Facility, Cambridge
$1,200 The Ring, New Berlin
$290,400 Profit
Best path: there's no best path, you can go 4 ways (from Cambridge to):
1. Omega-3 -> Omega-7 -> Stuttgart -> New Berlin
2. Omega-5 -> Omega-7 -> Stuttgart -> New Berlin
3. Omega-5 -> Omega-11 -> StuttGart -> New Berlin
4. Omega-5 -> Omega-11 -> Dresden -> New Berlin

Construction Machinery
$100 Planet Houston, Texas
$1,000 Planet Create, Omicron Gamma
$247,500 Profit
Best path: there's no best path, you can go 3 ways (from Texas to):
1. (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg -> New Berlin -> (Stuttgart or Dresden) ->
Omega-11 -> Omega-41 -> Omicron Gamma
2. (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg -> Frankfurt -> Dresden -> Omega-11 ->
Omega-41 -> Omicron Gamma
3. (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg -> Frankfurt -> Sigma-13 -> Sigma-17 ->
Omicron Theta -> Omicron Gamma

MOX (Perishable)
$72 LD-14, Leeds
$960 Planet Malta (Omicron Alpha), Tripoli Shipyard (Omicron Gamma)
$244,200 Profit
Best path: Leeds -> Tau-31 -> Tau-23 -> Tau-37 -> Omicron Alpha

Boron
$107 Mainz Storage Facility (Frankfurt), Planet Holstein (Frankfurt)
$960 LD-14, Leeds
$234,575 Profit
Best path: Frankfurt -> Dresden -> Omega-11 -> Omega-5 -> Cambridge -> Leeds

Cobalt
$120 Freistadt Base, Omega-7
$960 Planet Honshu, Honshu
$231,000 Profit
Best path: Omega-7 -> Stuttgart -> New Berlin -> Sigma-13 -> Honshu

Super Alloy
$120 Pueblo Station, Colorado
$960 Oder Shipyard, New Berlin
$231,000 Profit
Best path: Colorado -> New York -> Texas -> (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg ->
New Berlin

Mining Machinery
$120 Essen Station (New Berlin), Planet New Berlin (New Berlin)
$900 Falkland Station (Tau-37), Fuchu Prison (Shikoku)
$214,500 Profit
Best path: New Berlin -> Sigma-13 -> Honshu -> New Tokyo -> Shikoku


Edited by - Burs on 16-12-2003 01:57:51

Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:25 am

High Temperature Alloy
$40 Leipzig Station, Dresden
$800 Southampton Shipyard, New London
$209,000 Profit
Best path: Dresden -> Omega-11 -> Omega-5 -> Cambridge -> New London

Pharmaceuticals
$87 Planet Denver, Colorado
$800 Planet Malta, Omicron Alpha
$196,075 Profit
Best path: Colorado -> (Kepler or Galileo) -> Shikoku -> Kyushu -> Tau-23 ->
Tau-37 -> Omicron Alpha

Silver
$140 Freistadt Base, Omega-7
$840 Planet New Tokyo, New Tokyo
$192,500 Profit
Best path: Omega-7 -> Stuttgart -> New Berlin -> Sigma-13 -> Honshu -> New
Tokyo

Superconductors
$100 Pueblo Station, Colorado
$700 Oder Shipyard (New Berlin), The Ring (New Berlin)
$165,000 Profit
Best path: Colorado -> New York -> Texas -> (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg ->
New Berlin

H-Fuel
$23 Gas Miner Ogashawa, Sigma-19
$600 Cadiz Base, Omega-5
$158,675 Profit
Best path: Sigma-19 -> Sigma-17 -> Omicron Theta -> Omega-41 -> Omega-5

Ship Hull Panels
$80 Stokes Mining Station, Leeds
$640 Tripoli Shipyard, Omicron Gamma
$154,000 Profit
Best path: Leeds -> New London -> Cambridge -> Omega-5 -> Omega-41 -> Omicron
Gamma

Consumer Goods
$36 Planet Houston, Texas
$570 Falkland Base, Tau-37
$146,850 Profit
Best path: Texas -> California -> Magellan -> Leeds -> Tau-31 -> Tau-23 ->
Tau-37

Polymers
$107 Rugen Station, Omega-3
$600 Tripoli Shipyard, Omicron Gamma
$135,575 Profit
Best path: Omega-3 -> Omega-5 -> Omega-41 -> Omicron Gamma

Copper
$40 Leipzig Station, Dresden
$400 Pueblo Station, Colorado
$99,000 Profit
Best path: Dresden -> New Berlin -> Hamburg -> (Bering or Hudson) -> Texas ->
New York -> Colorado

Optical Chips
$80 Shinagawa Station, New Tokyo
$440 Essen Station, New Berlin
$99,000 Profit
Best path: New Tokyo -> Honshu -> Sigma-13 -> New Berlin

Hydrocarbons
$40 Rugen Station (Omega-3), Nago Station (Tao-29), Douglas Station
(Omega-3)
$320 Leipzig Station, Dresden
$77,000 Profit
Best path: there's no best path, you can go 3 ways:
1. Omega-7 -> Stuttgart -> Dresden
2. Omega-7 -> Omega-11 -> Dresden
3. Omega-5 -> Omega-11 -> Dresden

Fertilizer
$30 Planet Houston, Texas
$285 Planet Crete, Omicron Gamma
$70,125 Profit
Best path: there's no best path, you can go 3 ways (from Texas to):
1. (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg -> New Berlin -> (Stuttgart or Dresden) ->
Omega-11 -> Omega-41 -> Omicron Gamma
2. (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg -> Frankfurt -> Dresden -> Omega-11 ->
Omega-41 -> Omicron Gamma
3. (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg -> Frankfurt -> Sigma-13 -> Sigma-17 ->
Omicron Theta -> Omicron Gamma

Water
$15 Islay Base (Edinburgh), Perth Station (Edinburgh), Planet Baden Baden
(Stuttgart), Planet Cambridge (Cambridge), Planet Curacao (Cortez),
Planet Denver (Colorado), Planet Hamburg (Hamburg), Planet Honshu
(Honshu), Planet Kyushu (Kyushu), Planet Manhattan (New York), Planet
New Berlin (New Berlin), Planet New London (New London), Planet New
Tokyo (New Tokyo), Planet Stuttgart (Stuttgart)
$240 Freeport 5 (Omega-41), Freeport 9 (Omicron Theta), Leon Base
(Omega-41)
$61,875 Profit
Best path: there's no best path, you can go 2 ways:
1. Stuttgart -> Omega-11 -> Omega-41
2. Cambridge -> Omega-5 -> Omega-41

Basic Alloy
$60 Stokes Mining Station (Leeds), Dortmund Station (New Berlin)
$280 Tripoli Shipyard, Omicron Gamma
$60,500 Profit
Best path: there's no best path, you can go 2 ways:
1. New Belin -> (Stuttgart or Dreseden) -> Omega-11 -> Omega-41 -> Omicron G.
2. New Belin -> Sigma-13 -> Sigma-17 -> Omicron Theta -> Omicron Gamma

Toxic Waste
$2 Battleship Rio Grande (Colorado), Battleship Yokon (California)
$200 Dortmund Station, New Berlin
$54,450 Profit
Best path: California -> Texas -> (Bering or Hudson) -> Hamburg -> New Berlin

Food Rations
$9 Planet Stuttgart, Stuttgart
$200 Tripoli Shipyard, Omicron Gamma
$52,525 Profit
Best path: Stuttgart -> Omega-11 -> Omega-41 -> Omicron Gamma

Scrap Metal
$15 Yokohama Shipyard, New Tokyo
$100 Dortmund Station, New Berlin
$23,375 Profit
Best path: New Tokyo -> Honshu -> Sigma-13 -> New Berlin

Oxygen
$2 Planet Curacao, Cortez
$80 Cadiz Base, Omega-5
$21,450 Profit
Best path: Cortez -> Manchester -> New London -> Cambridge -> Omega-5

Terraforming Gases
$5 Stokes Mining Station (Leeds), Pueblo Station (Colorado), Dortmund
Station (New Berlin)
$80 Freeport 9, Omicron Theta
$20,625 Profit
Best path: New Berlin -> Sigma-13 -> Sigma-17 -> Omicron Theta


Edited by - Burs on 16-12-2003 01:58:25

Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:32 am

very comperhensive and i must say took a lot of dedication to compile this list

"Make it so"
Captain Jean Luc Picard,Star Trek TNG

Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:35 am

Thanks Gowserpaul, I hope it will be of use to someone...

Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 1:42 am

Did you take into account the Perishable factor?

-~-~-~-~
There is no Silicon Heaven! But where do all the calculators go ?

You could no more evade my wrath... than you could your own shadow!

Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:09 am

Heltak, of course I did! All of my answers are in the post! Read 1st and
2nd chapter again, let me help you...

1st chapter:
... but it's hard to determine which is the best way. It's not just the
type of commodity that matters... (but it's also important, like PERISHABLE)

2nd chapter:
... third where it's best to sell it (based on the price) NOT on characteristic

Anyway, I didn't want to say trading with Alien Organisms is the best...
As I said it all up to you to decide how/when/where you will buy/sell
some commodity. I only extracted the commodity satistic from the game
and put it on the forum.


Edited by - Burs on 30-11-2003 02:15:50

Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 1:31 pm

I think the most important factor is time.

if the area is hostile you can always fix your reputation.

my quastion is where is the shortest way to make at least 1k profit {of each cargo place 250/275*1k profit}


the second factor is there something in that are that can make good profit in your way back again at least 1k profit.

the 3rd factor is how hotstle the enviroment are and if there are PKs there.

anyone knows about any product that give 1k profit in the same system or the next system?
and hopefully there is something to return with.


Good work, Burs!

Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 4:33 pm

think the most important factor is time.

if the area is hostile you can always fix your reputation.

my quastion is where is the shortest way to make at least 1k profit {of each cargo place 250/275*1k profit}

Well it is close to 1k per unit , but fly optronics from Honshu to Ruiz (buy for 140 sell for 1090) in two jumps and a 30k trip through open space


the second factor is there something in that are that can make good profit in your way back again at least 1k profit.

Nope sorry not unless you take the loooong way back

the 3rd factor is how hotstle the enviroment are and if there are PKs there.
if you are on good terms with GMG and outcast it is rather safe and sigma 19 and O.Beta are usually PK free

anyone knows about any product that give 1k profit in the same system or the next system?
not that I am aware off , best ones i know of are Gatelane parts from Holman to tau construction site (approx 600) and engine parts from cali to mactan base , approx 550)

and hopefully there is something to return with.

for tau there is none that i am aware off but from mactan you can take gold back to cali





Time is too short to hate everybody , just hate a few

Post Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:51 pm

I agree with you razerdoom, that the most important factor is time. I hate
traveling through 8 different systems even if the profit is $500,000. Not to
mention you have to go back where you started. I updated my first two posts, so
now you can see the best path for trading. Check it yourself and tell me what
you think.

Many areas in Freelancer are hostiles, so when traveling with a cargo ship and
no money you are forced to bypass some systems, and that extends your trip.
It's also hard to find a person who can fix your reputation with criminal
faction.

I didn't fully understand your question about 1k profit, but if you want a
profit of at least 1k per unit, you should trade with all commodities from
Beryllium and up (my first post).

About the second factor, look at my other thread "It's all about money, isn't
it?". In one way you're selling Niobum and on the way back you're selling
Diamonds. Both trades are on the same route and profit per unit is about 1k.

About the third factor, I really don't know what you're talking about
(sorry, English is not my native language)

I made a BIG research on commodities, and I still haven't seen one that can be
sold in the system you bought it, nor I think I will. For ALL commodities that
give you profit above 1k per unit, there are AT LEAST 3 systems between buying
and selling locations. You won't find any other commodity for which you will
have to travel through only 2 systems. Just read this whole thread and you'll
know what I'm talking about.

Happy Freelancing...

Post Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:18 am

There is indeed exactly one trade route that gives $1k-plus per unit for only two system jumps.

Buy Alien Artifacts at Cadiz Base for $135. Travel through Cambridge to New London, and sell them at Planet New London for $1147, profit $1008.

The two next-best profit runs for two system jumps are:
Optronics for $140 at Planet Honshu, sell at Ruiz Base for $1050, profit $910
Diamonds for $198 at Ronneburg Base, sell at Planet New London for $1056, profit $858

The best run within only one system is Cardamine for $1049 at Kreuzberg Depot, sell at Planet New Berlin for $1349, profit $300.

Edited by - T-hawk on 01-12-2003 03:22:41

Post Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:06 pm

How could I miss it???
Those damn aliens

Perhaps I was only watching commodities which give the HIGHEST profit. When
you're trading with Alien Artifacts, there are a few ways to have profit over
1k per unit. This way, Cadiz Base -> Planet New London, which don't have the
highest profit but IS above 1k, is really as short as possible. Based on this
information, there must be more stuff like this, but it's hard to find them.

Post Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:38 pm

(Both with a Dromedary)

Luxury Consumer Goods
Buy $180 Manhattan, New York
Sell $1440 Ainu Depot, Hokkaido
You make:
$1260 profit per item
$346,500 profit per run


Cardamine
Buy $479 Ainu Depot, Hokkaido
Sell $1,500 Manhattan, New York
You make:
$1021 profit per item
$280,775 profit per run


Overall you make $627,275 for doing this ONCE in a Dromedary.

This is my favourite trade run because it's simply back and forth, so you don't have to go anywhere with an empty cargo hold. But of course watch out forthem bastard police and navy.

Happy trading!

-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-



http://www.cardamine.net/ - should be up and running after Christmas!

Post Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:22 pm

I used the spreadsheet available here to find those cargo runs:

http://www.lancersreactor.com/t/downloa ... asp?id=190

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Post Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:46 pm

Boron to Leeds and Luxury Food to Denver

Buy Boron from Planet PIttsburg
New York --> California --> Magellan --> Leeds
Sell Boron at LD-14
Buy Optronics from Leeds
Leeds --> New London
Sell Optronics at New London
Buy Luxury Food from New London
New London --> Magellan --> California --> New York --> Colorado
Sell Luxury Food at Denver
Buy H-Fuel at Denver
Colorado --> New York
Sell H-Fuel at Pittsburg
Repeat

It's a little complicated but you make about 650K per run (in a Dromedary, only 200K+ in a Rhino). I went from Level 1 to Level 30 in 2 hours 45 minutes with this run.

According to the theory of evolution, I should have died a LONG time ago.

Edited by - [ZN-Viper on 02-12-2003 21:37:02

Post Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:55 pm

Possible Correction:

Ship Hull Panels
$80 Stokes Mining Station, Leeds
$640 Tripoli Shipyard, New York
$154,000 Profit
Best path: Leeds -> Magellan -> New York

I dont think Tripoli Station is in New York

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