FL Is really based in the Sol System!

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:45 am by Widdowmaker

I have proof to. We all know the hispana is in the Sirrus sector. BUt in the opening intro it says the hispana had a problem.

Now if the hispana (HP) had a problem do you think it could last 800 years to get to the sirus sector? No. And going by basic human instict it would tell you that the members of the other 4 ships (LB RL KU and BR) might have tried to save the inhabitants of the hispana. If it was a sabatage by the cohilition, is it not feesable that they knew bout the others as well? What i think happened is this.

The hispana calls for help from the others. They slow down or stop to try to help the HP. The cohiliton goes after them (seen in FL intro) but get held off by whats left of the alliance. Now the nomads come out and begin smashing the chlition and allice (sol was suposedly destroyed right?) The 4 ships knew they couldnt get away so they put everyone in the "sleep" (stasis) and set the timer for 800 years. They shut down the engines and make it look like it is just one big assed wreck. The nomads destroy some suns (omega - 5 i belive) and planets (hence the MANY MANY asteroids.). THey see the 4 ships and sense no life signs or power (no engines and everyone si in stasis) so doing what they were made to do they left back to go to sleep. 800 Years later the timer ticks and they wake up. They dont remember anything (have you ever said "Tomorow i will do ______" and wake up and forget about it? Same thing.), and they decide they have better chances of survivng if they split up. SO they go to the 4 corners of the (what they think is sirus) system and setlle. MAny years pass and the nomads come again, only this time we win.

It hass everything needed.

1) Plauseability
2) Possibility
3) What would Humans Do factor. (Would you abandon your family freinds and loved ones to save yourself? Same thing.)

And there is evidence. The fact the HP is in the "Sirus" System is enough. A ship that blew up COULD not have made an 800 year journy to "Sirus" it leads me to belive the location of the HP is the locations they left from, as the HP did not make it past the blockade.

I would love to have this refuted and learn more about this. Debate is welcome.

Just dont flame.

Widdow

Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:47 am by Neo_Seeker

Nope.... Remember, everyone was SLEEPING.... Which means that no one could have waked up to call a distress call. and how the hell did suddenly 20+ stars spring up in the remains of Sol even though Sol did not have nearly enough leftover gas to create a single dwarf.. And how the hell did those stars get going in a mere 800 years... it would take at least millions of years.

This theory is totally screwed up.

Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:52 am by Widdowmaker

MY apologies. I never played starlancer. Only read and heard about it. And how big was Sol? I hevaent worked everything out yet, but what i have is plausabile. But the big thing that needs to be refuted to make this completely false is this.

How did a Sabotaged sleeper ship make it 800 years away if it was destroyed within hours of launch? As for millions of years, maybe the "Wake up" timer got broken and woke them up BILLIONS of years later. Maybe the jumpgates "Sirus" has reach further than anything Sol had acess to. Remember, a system and civilization is built on its resources. Try having a civilization with no metal. IT wont work nearly as well in space as one with metal.

Maybe there were robots onboard ot maintain the ship? Maybe it was an autopilot to send out a help call and wake up the other ships is one came under attack. That way the fight off the attackers.and go back to sleep. There are a million and one ways for it to have happened. But if you can find a way for the Hispaniana to have made it on an 800 year journey as a hunk of wreckage, this whole theroy means nothing.

G'night. I got to go to bed.

Edited by - Widdowmaker on 04-06-2003 05:55:41

Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:16 am by Freshen-Up

Sol = our sector, our solar system. The sun (sol), the earth, the whole big family. It says that in the intro too (youll see mars)

Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:42 am by Setsuna

It is 800 years past since they started colonizing Sirius, not the journey duration.
It is unknown how long the journey to Sirius took.
And it certanly is not Sol where Freelancer takes place, so leave it be.

Cpbuja ybuja!

Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:58 am by Sweeper

Now Sol CAN be included in Freelancer, there is a mod that adds it, Russian mod.

Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:56 pm by Setsuna

That's nice (especially because it's a Russian mod), but we were all talking about the original, unmodded version.

Cpbuja ybuja!

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:21 pm by Sweeper

Yeah I noticed, there is a far way between these systems. It is NOT a rocks throw away.
But that nice little mod. Now all we need is the coalition force and every FL player out there.

Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:53 pm by Kendo THM

Yes... And pigs can fly right??

The ones who have havn't...
The ones who don't do...

Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:40 pm by Widdowmaker

*sigh* All anyone has said is "Sol cant be where frelancer is." Proof? Show me evidence to sugest otherwise. Phisical proof. I have mine. There is *NO* *WAY* the Hispana could have made any lengthy journey even out of our solar system, and no way for it to reach "sirus" as many belive. How did the HP get to sirus? Hmm?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:58 pm by First Evil

I imagine the Hispania reached Sirius the same way the other sleeper ships did.

Unfortunately, I'm no expert on practical FTL physics. How about you?

- the First Evil

Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:03 pm by SolidStolid

WidowMaker, you have no proof, at least from what I know nowhere has it said that the Sabotague occured in Sol, or anywhere near it for that matter, and besides Sol, once again as I know, is only 1 system, not a sector, but I've never played Starlancer so I wouldn't really know. Oh and if it was you that said about the bright star, Sol's star would be normal sized from there, the bright stars are all of the surrounding systems in-game. And FINALLY, the "HP", although sabotagued, still could have had it's Guidance systems and Jump Equipment intact, therefore, although badly damaged, could still have gotten to Sirius, but maybe a few years later than the rest, which DOES make sense.

Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:53 pm by Freshen-Up

Widowmaker, it could have easily made it. first of all, projectiles in motion stay in motion in space, so why wouldnt it have made it? second of all, the malfunction could have happened later in the journey... which is probable knowing that the corsairs left while the hispania was slowly moving, and forced the outcasts to stay aboard, so therefore it is also impossible that they simply landed the ships and set the sleeper timers, because it was still moving when they awoke prematurely. Thrid of all, the original intro is NOT the intro they used, and for a reason. They scrapped it because they realized it might lend itself to contradictory situations. Give it up

Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:10 am by freighter fighter

the intro where sol was destroyed by the nomads WAS CUT FROM THE GAME!, is that clear enough for you?

Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:05 pm by SolidStolid

Heh, yeah that's actually very inacurate anyway if you ARE going by the original intro (I read it back before I had the game, so that's how I remember it so well) EVERYTHING was destroyed, the sun, the asteroids, the comets, everything but Pluto was taken out. So if you're using that as proof Freelancer would be based on a Tiny Planet with no sun, attempting to support the entire Population of the Sol SYSTEM, which reminds me, Sol, if I'm not mistaken, is a SYSTEM, Sirius, is a SECTOR. Big Difference. Sector is a number of systems, pretty much the level after galaxy, I think anyway. Galaxy->Sector->System->Planet->Continent I guess anyway...probably missing something there...

You know though, it's interesting how the Alliance, who's losing the war, was able to fill the sleeper ships with enough people to get the Sirius Sector inhabited as it is in an estimated 8 generations, and yet still have enough people fighting to break them through a full blown Coalition Blockade.

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