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Where the HELL is the black-hole?

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Post Mon Jun 09, 2003 4:32 am

It's just a freaking shoot'em'up, not a guide to the laws-of-physics. Read a book!

Post Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:16 am

They recently found that EVERY solar system has a black hole.But like in the previous post they consume everything including light,they can only be "seen" by monitoring the gravitational disturbances and you can only see those when they are ,and I'm quoting, "feeding".Even our solar system has one, and it's pretty close too (relatively speaking).This is just a game so they would have to make it visible I guess, would be cool to see at any rate.

Post Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:57 am

to filth:

There's nothing wrong with some intellectual discussion amigo. You might actually even learn something. (gasp!)

to Buster:

What the NUKER team of astronomers found was that every galaxy has a supermassive black hole in the middle, not "every solar system." The closest black hole to our solar system that we can detect via gravitational microlensing is something like 90 light years away if I remember right (I will have to check).

That's pretty far away, considering that the nearest star system to us is 4.3 light years away.

Post Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:59 am

Did you know that on average a black hole somewhere out there sucks in over 100 earth sized planets a minute. kinda scary aint it we could be next and by the by guys there is a supermassive black hole in our little corner of space.

Post Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:15 am

Nah. That supermassive blackhole is 100,000 light years away in the center of the Milky Way.

Our little solar system is near the outside of the galactic disc and will probably never go anywhere near there, unless the gravity of another galaxy upsets the balance and causes it to. That might happen yes, because there is an impending collision between the Milky Way and the Andromeda galaxy... But it won't happen for a few billion years yet (and by then the earth will probably be a dead ball of rock anyway.) And when galaxies collide, the solar system has an equal chance that it might be also tossed into intergalactic space too.

Post Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:05 pm

The black hole doesn't exists in single player, or maybe its hidden somewere and I have not seen it, but some servers (including khaosprime) and mods have it.
Its very big, and kind of strange to fly trough, but it doesn't do any damage or something. It looks funky though

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:00 am

Scientific anal-retentive point:
You CAN actually see blackholes, by the ABSENCE of light in an otherwise radiant part of the sky or more commonly, by bending and distorting the light from background stars in your line of sight.

Besides... who would want to enter one?
You get sucked in, your ship ripped apart by differing gravitiational pull, time dilation would kick in, feeling as if the crush goes on forever, finally getting pulvurized beyond atomic structure itself.

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:11 am

Exactly...entering a black hole would pointless. Not only is the tunnel formed by the black hole unstable, but you would also be severly "spaghettified" and destroyed.

->Death smiles at us all...all a man can do is smile back<-

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:53 am

Black holes move around you know not all of them just sit in space and wait for some hapless idiot to fly into it. You think the planets go to the black hole and get sucked in NOPE the black holes go to them. And i agree black holes are visible.

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:43 pm

Well, there is only one way a black hole can move.. And that's gravitational attraction from something else more massive (like a supermassive black hole). Black holes on their own don't move around randomly like it has a mind of its own or something.

Remember that black holes are dead stars. They still have mass (which is why they have gravity!). And massive things can move only if you apply a force to it.

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:27 pm

no, not the white, grey and black force theory of einstein

between our star (sun) and the closest star (i don't know it name) who u can see, 2 death stars r closer by us, they not good fisible more planet looking things... like the neutron star in omega-41

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:36 pm

Heh heh, well, if it is the Death Star you are looking for, yeah there is actually a Death Star in our solar system... It's right out there orbiting Saturn as we speak:



(those into astronomy would recognize it as the moon Mimas that orbits Saturn.)

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:40 pm

I Remade Omega-13. I didn't upload it to This site because it has a whole **** load of bugs and glitches. But It takes up about 3/4 of the map. And if you want to see a blackhole? Look in a damn library book. They've got real pictures of blackholes there. And the blackhole isn't even finished yet. Like they decited '**** it too muck work'

Post Wed Jun 11, 2003 8:16 am

what's our next discusion??? anti-matter and matter???

but whatever...

we talking about a dead something (star)...

if u have played Qonquest frontier wars, there is a small blackhole after u found the first ally (enemy of the enemy )

i like to drop ships into that blackhole , sometimes they come out 3 or 4 systems further , but u can't move them anyore .... i will put also the indext of there blackhole on this forum , i'll do that today...

the same i will do with there wormholes/jumpgates

cya near the deth star (take the nova type A)

Post Wed Jun 11, 2003 2:09 pm

Black-Holes:

A black-hole is a kind of perished wormhole: come to close and his gravitation will pull u to the inside of the black-hole. There's a change of escaping, but that matters about the shipsize and power of the ship. Co'z black-holes r build-up from the energy of a collapsed star, will ur ship will be cracked and smashed togheter while it will get deeper in the blackhole. If the ship surfived, what mostly not happends, it's not knownable where the ship will come back.


there can be some wrong words in it, co'z i had a dutch explanation near me , and not an englisch one from Qonquest Frontier Wars

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