The only thing I can tell you about the history of the Hessians is that they were a group of miners who revolted and are now at war with just about everyone. They're also the nastiest lot in the game to fight!

I'd love to know the location of these 'Hessian Tears' Ive heard about them on the Rhienland news but i cant seem to locate the station mentioned

Hessian Tears are diamonds and the rumor that tells you more about it is at the Red Hessian home base on Vogtland in the Dresdan system. Also, the 'Tears' are pretty cheap there but the best price is in a Hessian outpost......Freital Base in Omega-11 or at Ronneburg Base in Omega-5. Although I would not recommend the Omega-5 sector unless you are at least neutral with both cause there is a major conflict going on there between the Hessians and the Corsairs.......let's just say that it can get kind of hairy in No Man's Land there if you are enemies with either or worst case.....both. LoL.

For the record, "Hessian" is also another word for Mercenary.

Hes·sian
adj.
Of or relating to Hesse or its inhabitants.

n.
1. A native or inhabitant of Hesse.
2. A German mercenary in the British army in America during the Revolutionary War.
3. A mercenary soldier.

Edit: What this had to do with the actual diamonds, I don't know. When I posted it, it seemed to make sense as to why I posted this. Now looking back... no idea.


Edited by - Kasdia on 15-05-2003 02:11:37

Ya know, I see a lot on this forum, in this thread and others, that this base or that base is the best place to buy diamonds. Yet none of the bases listed are actually the cheapest place to buy diamonds. Even the fancy trade calculators miss the best place to buy diamonds (and a few other things).

Ok, here is the scoop. The Red Hessians sell them for 198cr each. In the same system (Dresden) are 3 astroid miners. Each sells diamons for 20cr each. You just have to find them. They are deep in a nebula with sensors reduced. Still, once located they are an excellent source as you don't have to be friendly to the Hessians to buy cheap diamonds.

Also, the miners buy water at 300cr so a great cycle is to Planet New Tokyo and back with water for diamonds. Shortest trip is through 4 systems.

A little birdie on my shoulder says "BULL****" Besides niobium is worth more cash on the return run. If ya wanna make REAL cash, just go to the hessian base on dresden and start some ethnic cleansing.

Your little bird needs to look more in the Dresden system....

I was speaking also of trade runs rather than ethnic cleansing. For that matter you can do the diamond mining yourself and not have to bother the other hardworking mining droids, fill up on diamonds and go to New Tokyo.

And would you be so kind as to tell us how the asteroid miners allow you to buy the diamonds? Just asking because you can't dock with an asteroid miner.

Hmmmmm.

Have you tried?

You can’t dock with an asteroid miner. Can’t meaning “can not”. As in “can not happen”. You must be running a mod.


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Edited by - Holliday on 03-06-2003 16:11:29

Mea Culpa.

You are correct. You can not dock with the astroid miners. To much time reading the .ini files and not enough time flying.

FWIW the last number in the market goods entrys is a multiplier to the base goods price. For instance, lets look at diamonds The base price given in goods.ini is 660. The multiplier in market_commodities.ini for New Tokyo (ku01_01_base) is 2.5 so price there is 1650.

My error resulted from looking for the lowest multiplier in market_commodities.ini which is near the bottom:

[BaseGood
base = rh_m_diamond_miner
MarketGood = commodity_oxygen, 0, -1, 0, 0, 1, 10
MarketGood = commodity_water, 0, -1, 0, 0, 1, 10
MarketGood = commodity_diamonds, 0, -1, 150, 500, 0, 0.033300
MarketGood = commodity_food, 0, -1, 0, 0, 1, 3.448300
MarketGood = commodity_H_fuel, 0, -1, 0, 0, 1, 2
MarketGood = commodity_high_temp_alloys, 0, -1, 0, 0, 1, 0.500000
MarketGood = commodity_mining_machinery, 0, -1, 0, 0, 1, 6.666700
MarketGood = commodity_pharm, 0, -1, 0, 0, 1, 0.526300


As you can see, then, this "base" should sell diamonds for 0.033300 * 660 = 21.978. This "base" (rh_m_diamond_miner) can be found in rh05.ini:

[Object
nickname = Rh05_Roid_Miner_1
ids_name = 60225
pos = 31059, 0, 553
rotate = 0, -50, 0
archetype = Roid_Miner2
ids_info = 66140
reputation = rh_m_grp
dock_with = rh_m_diamond_miner
base = rh_m_diamond_miner
difficulty_level = 13
loadout = mining_co_02
pilot = pilot_solar_hardest
behavior = NOTHING

which gives a valid base all set up for docking. It just doesn't work in MP. I will try it soonest in SP to see if it is specific to one version. Anyway, bets of luck and will keep y'all posted.

I've tried a few in SP and never been able to dock. Although I will admit I've only tried a few and not all of them.

Plus, I can't find a reference to the asteroid miners in universe/systems/rh05/bases, which implies they are not set up as a dockable base.

Edited by - Circumcisor on 06-06-2003 19:34:09