that would be possible i think
but involves alot of coding (including new cookies)
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:31 am
The key here is to stimulate ideas on obtaining more news and posts, those who are defensive about their own servers etc have a right to express their own opinion, however, my overiding point which some seem to ignore are methods in obtaining more news and being more proactive about it.
I dont need to defend The Void, as its been a top 4 server in the global rankings for well over 2 years consistently day on day and with over 5400+ voluntarily registered members (as opposed to forcing people to join to read forums) we have a succesful community. As opposed to those who rank 10 or something in the global stats. Lets keep it in perspective as of today The Voids regular "ACTIVE" player base (14 day period) is twice that of Crossfire and has been for very long time. Hamburg is some three times that of crossfire
http://www.cryosphere.f2s.com/Freelance ... tivity.php
When I talk about smaller servers, I talk about people starting out and people struggling to get players, not mine or any of the top 10 servers,so some of you are mistaken about my comments.
My previous post to this was directed at how LR could be more proactive in obtaining news and not constantly plugging the same servers. So there was no need to rustle up a few crossfire fanboys to post about it.
As usual, there are always reasons you can say why you cant do things, what makes the difference are those people who attempt to do the things which are harder/different etc. I would kindly ask that other Admins at TLR who don't have such a dismissive attitude and show contempt for valid suggestions perhaps think about W0dk4 and my suggestions a little more as they are made in good faith and are only made to try and encourage more variety and news at LR.
Maybe when you look at the suggestions people take the time to make, you can think of expanding the ideas/concept rather than post it in a quote and write some derisory comment about it.
I dont need to defend The Void, as its been a top 4 server in the global rankings for well over 2 years consistently day on day and with over 5400+ voluntarily registered members (as opposed to forcing people to join to read forums) we have a succesful community. As opposed to those who rank 10 or something in the global stats. Lets keep it in perspective as of today The Voids regular "ACTIVE" player base (14 day period) is twice that of Crossfire and has been for very long time. Hamburg is some three times that of crossfire
http://www.cryosphere.f2s.com/Freelance ... tivity.php
When I talk about smaller servers, I talk about people starting out and people struggling to get players, not mine or any of the top 10 servers,so some of you are mistaken about my comments.
My previous post to this was directed at how LR could be more proactive in obtaining news and not constantly plugging the same servers. So there was no need to rustle up a few crossfire fanboys to post about it.
As usual, there are always reasons you can say why you cant do things, what makes the difference are those people who attempt to do the things which are harder/different etc. I would kindly ask that other Admins at TLR who don't have such a dismissive attitude and show contempt for valid suggestions perhaps think about W0dk4 and my suggestions a little more as they are made in good faith and are only made to try and encourage more variety and news at LR.
Maybe when you look at the suggestions people take the time to make, you can think of expanding the ideas/concept rather than post it in a quote and write some derisory comment about it.
Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:10 am
My previous post to this was directed at how LR could be more proactive in obtaining news and not constantly plugging the same servers. So there was no need to rustle up a few crossfire fanboys to post about it.
As usual, there are always reasons you can say why you cant do things, what makes the difference are those people who attempt to do the things which are harder/different etc. I would kindly ask that other Admins at TLR who don't have such a dismissive attitude and show contempt for valid suggestions perhaps think about W0dk4 and my suggestions a little more as they are made in good faith and are only made to try and encourage more variety and news at LR.
Aparently you didn't pay attention to BP and my posts. We POST what we are given. If Crossfire out numbers other news items, is it not infered there are FEW other news items to post? We post what we have, and to my knowledge, I have only refused to post 2 items since I have done the news that were blaten cheats, and an attack on a server.
If you want to see more news, get people into submiting news items and they will be posted.
We do take sugjestions into consideration by the way, some can be done, some need to wait for circumstances to change, some are not approreate for a family site, and so on. We truly do here them. We as a community though, can't simple DO every idea thats asked of us. Thats not reality. Its like the poll I did, those games that have drawn the most responce, are now being covered. We have added to the site, yet people still complain that it is not enough.
Think about it from our point of view as well, hmmm?
Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:41 am
I have posted in the Havens Admin Server forums to start getting some news submissions from some of the new and early starter Admins who obviously need the exposure, hopefully, we will be able to organise a more effective push on getting news from servers who are members of this group.
As many of the well organised/popular servers are members of this group as well Im sure between us we can get a good variety of submissions/news coming in regularly from servers large and small.
There a couple other FL admin forums I'll post in also.
As many of the well organised/popular servers are members of this group as well Im sure between us we can get a good variety of submissions/news coming in regularly from servers large and small.
There a couple other FL admin forums I'll post in also.
Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:59 am
what is it strail that you always keep attacking the crossfire community with your accuses?
this is not the first time that you do that here
you claim something that is not true, accuse OP to abuse his rights and then no words of "sorry i was wrong with that"
you attacked OP and the entire Crossfire community in this way and then you expect that OP does changes for you here at LR?
not to mention that you come up and claim how much better Void is, cmon that must be a joke
you only have more players on your server because your server doesn't need to handle as much data as the crossfire server has to due to it's size and CF proved easily that we could have the same amount of members online but we decided for quality instead of quantity
hell, you even spread false information here
first you claim that you might loose players because of the crossfire news and now you claim how big your server is, bla bla
you are saying the total opposite of what you said at the beginning and your post here had no other reason than to make Crossfire or OP look bad
i heavily doubt that your intention has anything to do with the wealth of FL or LR since you made not a single suggestion how to change things to the better... no you just want to make things get changed to the worse of others, such as CF
you want to limit peoples rights here at LR
whenever i read your name then it is because you once again attack CF or OP
you have attacked OP and accused him of things that are not true
you post attacked the crossfire community
you say bull**** about Crossfire
and you claim to be better and that void is better but for sure it is not
what you do here is just a poor attempt to damage the reputation of OP and CF
you tried it a few months ago and you tried it 2 times on this thread
you really should think twice what you write next here because the CF community wont watch your continious verbal attacks much longer
this is not the first time that you do that here
you claim something that is not true, accuse OP to abuse his rights and then no words of "sorry i was wrong with that"
you attacked OP and the entire Crossfire community in this way and then you expect that OP does changes for you here at LR?
not to mention that you come up and claim how much better Void is, cmon that must be a joke
you only have more players on your server because your server doesn't need to handle as much data as the crossfire server has to due to it's size and CF proved easily that we could have the same amount of members online but we decided for quality instead of quantity
hell, you even spread false information here
first you claim that you might loose players because of the crossfire news and now you claim how big your server is, bla bla
you are saying the total opposite of what you said at the beginning and your post here had no other reason than to make Crossfire or OP look bad
i heavily doubt that your intention has anything to do with the wealth of FL or LR since you made not a single suggestion how to change things to the better... no you just want to make things get changed to the worse of others, such as CF
you want to limit peoples rights here at LR
whenever i read your name then it is because you once again attack CF or OP
you have attacked OP and accused him of things that are not true
you post attacked the crossfire community
you say bull**** about Crossfire
and you claim to be better and that void is better but for sure it is not
what you do here is just a poor attempt to damage the reputation of OP and CF
you tried it a few months ago and you tried it 2 times on this thread
you really should think twice what you write next here because the CF community wont watch your continious verbal attacks much longer
Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:23 am
Oh attacking our server with false accusations??? Oh my. Now that is not cool at all.
Here's some information for you....you know how well Crossfire runs itself? How well the Community of Crossfire takes care of its problems? It runs soooooo smooth Op has no need to be there, instead he brings his talents and time to LR to help this place continue to thrive and be successful. Op achieved this by placing insane amounts of time by placing people on his "team" in the correct positions.
So I say two things:
1. Bring your ideas and solutions to LR and work hard so we have a multi-lateral forum for our gaming interests.
2. Keep the personal attacks in your personal diary where no one else needs to see or hear them.
Give respect and you shall recieve it.
Gunny
Cheif of Crossfire ServerPolice
Commanding Officer Crossfire Police Department
Here's some information for you....you know how well Crossfire runs itself? How well the Community of Crossfire takes care of its problems? It runs soooooo smooth Op has no need to be there, instead he brings his talents and time to LR to help this place continue to thrive and be successful. Op achieved this by placing insane amounts of time by placing people on his "team" in the correct positions.
So I say two things:
1. Bring your ideas and solutions to LR and work hard so we have a multi-lateral forum for our gaming interests.
2. Keep the personal attacks in your personal diary where no one else needs to see or hear them.
Give respect and you shall recieve it.
Gunny
Cheif of Crossfire ServerPolice
Commanding Officer Crossfire Police Department
Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:46 pm
it was pretty much offensive but ill simply ignore what has been said about me, my server and my community at this given point of time
instead of stepping down to the same level where accusations and false claims dominated this thread ill give my "objective" oppinion as LR admin here
since LR is - let me say it in this way - the center of the entire FL community all serveradmins, all clans and all modders should know where to find us to submit their news and IF they have news then they will post them
no registration on this havens forum or whatever it is will make LR more known or will cause more news
the opposite will be the case
servers which are not registered there will not even be mentioned... so they either be part of that thing or they live with a disadvantage which leads me to the word "discrimination" again
if the serveradmins can post news there which are carried to us... why dont we let them post it directly here like it always has been?
ahh yes... the already mentioned "quality filtering" or like i would call it "cencoring"
you said that all or almost all "well administrated" servers are part of this haven-thingy
the way i understand it is nothing else than a place where cheaters are declarated as cheaters and banned from all those servers
but then the question does come up... if those servers are so "well administrated" then why do they have a cheater problem then?
(sorry if i turn from the LR-admin to the Server-admin for a short time now)
my server is not part of that community/forum/cheater-detection-system and for sure i wont ever join that ... because i see no reason... i cant even remember when i did see the last cheater on my server... so it must have been very very very long time ago
I heavily believe that it is better to prevent cheating than to hunt cheaters... and believe it or not... it does work
(switching back to the LR-admin now)
lets play a little game... lets imagine i would be the big bad cheater now and i would be on your server... of course i already have found me... and you ban me... lets say you ban my account and my IP (just to be sure)... and yes you submit the info about me to the other serveradmins... so far so good
how long does it take to get a new MP-ID and therefore a new account?
30 seconds? 1 minute? (well not long)
how long does it take to get a new IP?
2 minutes? less?
well to shorten it up a cheater can be back on your server in less than 5mins no matter how you can him... and in the same way he can go to every server of this cheater-detection-community (whatever)
5mins to make this entire thing... useless
Im sorry to take some admins illusions now
a final thing i want to say and i think i do speak in the interest of the entire LR administration
this is the Lancers Reactor site... and since the LR staff does the work here it is their decision how things are done here and what they do
and this is the "site suggestion" board of this forum and not the "do this" and "do that" board and for sure it is not the "accuse others" or the "post unreasonable claims" board
so if this wont stop anytime soon i will lock this thread, bury it in the archives where no human being will ever find it and do the same with every following thread about the same topic
understood? ok!
thx for reading
instead of stepping down to the same level where accusations and false claims dominated this thread ill give my "objective" oppinion as LR admin here
since LR is - let me say it in this way - the center of the entire FL community all serveradmins, all clans and all modders should know where to find us to submit their news and IF they have news then they will post them
no registration on this havens forum or whatever it is will make LR more known or will cause more news
the opposite will be the case
servers which are not registered there will not even be mentioned... so they either be part of that thing or they live with a disadvantage which leads me to the word "discrimination" again
if the serveradmins can post news there which are carried to us... why dont we let them post it directly here like it always has been?
ahh yes... the already mentioned "quality filtering" or like i would call it "cencoring"
you said that all or almost all "well administrated" servers are part of this haven-thingy
the way i understand it is nothing else than a place where cheaters are declarated as cheaters and banned from all those servers
but then the question does come up... if those servers are so "well administrated" then why do they have a cheater problem then?
(sorry if i turn from the LR-admin to the Server-admin for a short time now)
my server is not part of that community/forum/cheater-detection-system and for sure i wont ever join that ... because i see no reason... i cant even remember when i did see the last cheater on my server... so it must have been very very very long time ago
I heavily believe that it is better to prevent cheating than to hunt cheaters... and believe it or not... it does work
(switching back to the LR-admin now)
lets play a little game... lets imagine i would be the big bad cheater now and i would be on your server... of course i already have found me... and you ban me... lets say you ban my account and my IP (just to be sure)... and yes you submit the info about me to the other serveradmins... so far so good
how long does it take to get a new MP-ID and therefore a new account?
30 seconds? 1 minute? (well not long)
how long does it take to get a new IP?
2 minutes? less?
well to shorten it up a cheater can be back on your server in less than 5mins no matter how you can him... and in the same way he can go to every server of this cheater-detection-community (whatever)
5mins to make this entire thing... useless
Im sorry to take some admins illusions now
a final thing i want to say and i think i do speak in the interest of the entire LR administration
this is the Lancers Reactor site... and since the LR staff does the work here it is their decision how things are done here and what they do
and this is the "site suggestion" board of this forum and not the "do this" and "do that" board and for sure it is not the "accuse others" or the "post unreasonable claims" board
so if this wont stop anytime soon i will lock this thread, bury it in the archives where no human being will ever find it and do the same with every following thread about the same topic
understood? ok!
thx for reading
Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:15 pm
Aww, calm down all.
The news post often says "If you have something you'd like posting, please submit it using the *points to link* submit news".
News posted, as said, has been submitted.
That's it, end of discussion - needs to go no further. If other servers aren't submitting news items, they only have themselves to blame. If crossfire submits them, then they're using the service provided.
Simple as.
So chill out folks, no need to defend or anything else - just point out the facts, and leave it at that.
Oh, yeah, and stfu omg wtf bbqroflocopter!
The news post often says "If you have something you'd like posting, please submit it using the *points to link* submit news".
News posted, as said, has been submitted.
That's it, end of discussion - needs to go no further. If other servers aren't submitting news items, they only have themselves to blame. If crossfire submits them, then they're using the service provided.
Simple as.
So chill out folks, no need to defend or anything else - just point out the facts, and leave it at that.
Oh, yeah, and stfu omg wtf bbqroflocopter!
Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:39 pm
Personally I think server announcements shouldn't be in the news at all. Not that I want to prevent people from garnering interest in their servers, but this does not seem to be the appropriate method for it in my opinion.
We have become very server oriented, which has led to very serious conflicts in some cases. Naturally this sort of conflict and over-competitive drive has filtered through into the news system here at Lancers. This thread is an example of the problem with this sort of advertising.
I think it would be much more beneficial if we simply linked to all servers and only posted news on special server events (not repetative ones that would be announced every week) or important server news (like server opening, closing, moving, etc.).
My two cents.
We have become very server oriented, which has led to very serious conflicts in some cases. Naturally this sort of conflict and over-competitive drive has filtered through into the news system here at Lancers. This thread is an example of the problem with this sort of advertising.
I think it would be much more beneficial if we simply linked to all servers and only posted news on special server events (not repetative ones that would be announced every week) or important server news (like server opening, closing, moving, etc.).
My two cents.
Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:44 am
This site is overflowing with more server news than anything else and the visitor count has gone way down. Few people really want to come to the main page just to see the same advertisements for servers over and over again. They want to hear about mods, events, and new games. You can still make servers a prominent part of the site without posting an advertisement for 10 in every news post.
What the site really needs is interactive content and community events. I have suggested to BP that we could start up a contest with prizes as a community event. This would only be one thing though. More are needed.
What the site really needs is interactive content and community events. I have suggested to BP that we could start up a contest with prizes as a community event. This would only be one thing though. More are needed.
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