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Post Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:37 am

i respect you cips but it is illegal

look here for their copyright stuff: http://tibianews.net/legal.asp

"If im phased and can walk through stuff, then why am I not falling through the floor?"

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:46 am

Man.... Its not illegal becuase it wasnt sued for commerical purposes and he did not claim ownership or copyright law of it as chips said.

also, so what he used someone elses thing, did anything bad happen nope. Copyright only comes into play if someone is claiming owner ship or publication rights or using it for commerical purposes. Futher more i have seen at least 50 of those circulating the Web.



Edited by - DSQrn on 3/21/2005 11:47:31 AM

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:10 pm

@Flyingbeef

Here's the quote from their legal blurb which is almost word for word on most web pages that have forums of some sort (isn't that ironic?)


The entire contents of this website, including but not limited to: Text, graphics, logos, button icons, Flash movies, images, audio clips, digital downloads, data compilations, and software, are the property of Tibianews.net and are protected by Domestic and International copyright and trademark laws. You may not modify, copy, reproduce, republish, upload, post, transmit, or distribute any portion of the website contents without the prior express written consent of Tibianews.net. You may print or download portions of the materials from various areas of this website solely for your own non-commercial use (like in "fansites" provided that you agree not to change or delete any copyright or proprietary notices from the materials.



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Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:22 pm

The calm collected voice of logic has spoken...all others keep quiet.



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Post Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:54 am

I'd like to append a few other observations to Master Chief's excellent exposition on this topic:

Noobs have a tendancy to constantly use all caps whenever possible (and we all know when you speak loud enough, anyone can understand)

Noobs accuse others of being noobs for using a legal advantage in gameplay that the origional noob was too dumb to think of using in the first place. (I.e. when defeated, they accuse others of cheating and foul play in a temper tantrum instead of trying to learn from the experience of being mowed over by a moving vehicle (Halo))

Noobs have no sense of logic:

"1337 is NOT a bunch of deliberate misspellings!"
(quote taken from actual noob)

And finally, when confronted, noobs make nonsensical empty threats:
Me: Turn off your caps lock
Noob: (All in caps) Shut up you little kid, I'll eat your throat!
Me: Oh, now I'm really scared
Other bystander: Without even cooking it? gross!
Me: That'l make you sick.
Noob: (silence)

Post Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:50 pm

Aw, gosh...

Newbs are people I teach how to play a game that I'm good at, like Counter-Strike. I have been known to sit alone with a newbie or three on a server with nobody else around, buy no weapons, and teach them how to play a bit better by teaching them how to shoot. Newbs are polite people who really *do* wish to become better players, and understand that what I do may look impossible, but isn't.

Noobs (aka "scrubs" are newbs who are too clueless to read a game's manual. In CS/CS:S, these are typically the people who are so silly that they do not realize what the radar does, cannot plant the bomb without detailed instructions, and shoot their teammates when they feel they're not being respected.

n00bs are Noobs who've graduated to using hacks, deliberately playing country-music MP3s on the voicecom, spraying the walls with really lame pornography, and generally acting like the kinds of meanspirited children one keeps away from sharp objects, small animals and gasoline

Generally, the same players who are Noobs... and cannot graduate to being Newbs, because of a lack in some critical social/intellectual area (such as being able to read, basic civility, or a sociopathic personality) become n00bs. n00bs are generally immature and hate-filled people. I feel pity for them, but I cannot help despising them, just as I would despise anybody who cheated me in a "real game", such as people who deliberately abuse the rules of "barroom pool" or other friendly games of sport, such as pickup basketball- we all know the equivalent of the guy who plays dirty and doesn't respect other players desire to simply play for the fun of it, and such people are almost always either sociopaths or idiots, or both- it really doesn't matter what game you play- people who win at all costs are a pain.

In short, we are all newbs at one point or another. I was a newb at modding this game- now I am halfway to being skilled, but I am not so skilled that I'm 1337

One of my favorite parts of playing in any game has been meeting players at the tops of their game- for example, I have had the rare pleasure of playing CS with members of CPL (professional) clans. In my experience, most of the people who are at the top levels of skill have been quite nice and socially well-adjusted- it's gotten to the point that when I meet someone with obscenely high k:d ratios who's a ****... that person is probably not "skill"- I have never met a genuine member of a CPL clan who treated me or other players with disrespect, insulted us, or didn't play the game.

So... newbies are potential rock stars, and should be treated with decency and respect- they may be teaching you some day. I was not the last guy who came to FL modding, and many people who've come after me have already done really cool things, like Watercooler Warrior or Mephistopheles, who were both people who wrote me email about FL modding when they were brand-new here (believe it or not... and I haven't been here that long, lol). That's one of the reasons why I try to encourage new modders around here, when they seem promising- sometimes they really bloom

Noobs are potentially newbs, and should be gently guided towards reading the game's manual, if possible. It may be difficult to be patient with them, but they are potentially salvageable. I try my best, which is not always good enough

n00bs, on the other hand... are like wet dogs carrying sticks of dynamite in their teeth. They stink, they cannot be converted into humans, and you don't want them to come into your house

Post Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:20 pm

nOObs can be funny sometimes, ill tell you guys a story later but i got to go

"If im phased and can walk through stuff, then why am I not falling through the floor?"

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