Just got it and so far I'm happy. Much faster than FF on my rig, and overall looks better. Before I couldn't use a lot of things on the net that used flash or javascript because I hadn't updated to FF 2.0. (Heard it sucked.)

But I like this, thanks for the linky.

The flash on lancers front page works fine for me, and as this is the bet\a, they should have the final tuned nicely.

edit- Tried on vista now too, still loading faster.

Edited by - Finalday on 6/16/2007 3:14:38 PM

Well, I've encountered two things about it that I don't like.

One, if I minimize and then click on the button on my taskbar to bring it back up, it comes back up but at 1/2 the size in windowed mode. (Very annoying, I like it to where when I minimize something that's running full screen, it comes back up full screen.)

The other thing is I can't get the extra buttons on my mouse to work for the back and forward functions (worked with both IE and FF.)

But other than those, this is a very nice browser. Wish I could change the color/theme though, the setup looks nice but the color just isn't doing it for me.

BTW, how secure is this compared to FF and IE (Okay well... compared to FF?)

Add that to the feedback link in the help link of the browser.

so you think that it's Safari so-goody do you? well, anything is better than IE in any incarnation, and to be fair this latest offering from Mr Jobs is only a beta, but I feel I can do without a browser that crashes when i import bookmarks or fill in text, is riddled with not only bugs but full-on exploitable vulnerabilities (and not just cos it's on Vindoze, they're there on OSX too) but doesn't display even half of the text if it's bold or not English, that doesn't support most of my plug-ins that work in most other browsers, yet just to give the lie to the apology that "it's just a beta" Mr Jobs did loudly claim that Safari would be "secure from Day 1." Well it's not, is it?

Instead of gimmicky nonsense such as a very inadequate browser, why don't Apple give us OSX for PC since Macs run on Intel now? that would be far more useful than just trying to needle Gates with publicity stunts (and failing)

however as I'm using Konqueror on a Debian box it's not a problem I'm going to experience personally (but I did try Schmafari out just to see what it was like, and it was cr*p) What I can't understand is why all these muppets who went ploughing for Vista like truffling porkers on Day 1 are now bunging Safari onto their beautiful Aero themes? why don't you go out and swap your PCs and get Macs and be done with it?

meanwhile, in another part of the Galaxy, FD said;

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Apple has done something a little nice for windows users

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Bless his little feathery socks! FD sees charity, I see bungled corporate gimmicks.







Edited by - Tawakalna on 6/17/2007 3:57:20 AM

Taw, I truly would love to try apple, however with the price tag as high as it is $4000 is a little steep for a good desktop, as is $3000 for a good lappy. That could change in the future though. I am open to a change from windows, but NOT to linux. Until its as easy to intall and run as windows, and can run windows games/programs, its not of intrest to me these days. Yes, I have tried it, redhat and Correl's versions of it.

download Knoppix and give it a whirl, you'll like it, full GUI, drivers for just about everything, loads of apps (no Vindoze games though, naturally)

I have to use Knoppix for uni.

Guess I'll have to get started on that part :S

akshuly Knoppix is Debian, except it runs from the cd/dvd and doesn't install to the hdd (v useful for fixing k-nackered systems and extracting data) It was through Knoppix that I was eventually converted to Debian, so i installed it dual-boot and haven't looked back since - no crashes, no conflicts, no weird memory errors, everything just works, and if it doesn't finding out why is fun - and no viruses!

Obviously gotta keep Vindoze for games and the fact that Mrs Taw cannot use any other operating system, but for the majority of purposes, I am no longer a Vindoze user. Thank heaven that's finally over!

An update, still no bugs noticed, and I like the more simple view it gives. A lot less clutter than some other ones.

Use Ubuntu - in fact one of the admins on me lil forum did a whole thread on Linux for people - showing what it can do, and how easy it is. If you're not registered, you'll have to click on the images to appreciate them

http://www.pathfinderstudios.com/forum/ ... topic=2295


As for Safari - I tried it, and uninstalled it after 2 minutes.
It's not even beta release, it's alpha - pre-alpha. It crashed no end of times, it failed to render around 50% of pages at all. It just plain wasn't useable.
When it did render pages, it looked identical to FF page - so that's not bad, appears to be compliant enough at first glance, so that's a plus bonus - but I never even got to surf to pages where it may get tested out at all, they didn't load or the browser froze.

Oh, and within a few hours, they'd found security vulnerabilities which allowed executing code if I remember rightly. No, it's not a limited to windows only issue... it exists in the apple as well, and has done for bloody ages.

For a company that ridicules Microsoft security, they can't even fix their bugs once they've been presented with them 2+ years ago. People in glass houses... etc etc. Dislike Apple a lot due to this, more than MS even. Haven't seen MS base all it's public speeches around trying to ridicule someone elses stuff, just presenting what they've done.

Safari can, quite literally, go on Safari and never come back as far as I am concerned. It's tosh, and with Firefox/Opera/IE and a gazillion other good browsers - surplus to requirements.

Chips, which OS did you run it on? I have it on XP Home and Vista Ultimate, and it has yet to crash.

Vista - it's either business or ultimate.

Half of web pages, as I said, didn't load - but instead gave me an option to report the bug (i think that's what the option was, by the time I saw it the 5th time just trying to view a website, I stopped reading it. it's been about 14 days since I installed/un-installed it).

Well aside from a couple of annoyances I had with it (I complained about them in an earlier post here) I didn't have any real problems with it. It started out much faster than FF, but as the days went on it started getting slower and slower. It ended up being slower than IE, so I uninstalled and updated to FF 2.0. I guess I'll give the new update a try, but if it pulls this bullet-to-turtle speed again it's off my comp at least until it's out of beta.