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Halo Universe discussion (lots of spoilers, beware)

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Post Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:32 am

Halo Universe discussion (lots of spoilers, beware)

Hmmm, let me start. Anyone care to speculate why the Covenants hate humans so much?

Edited just to add the note about spoilers. Not closing the thread or anything like that, just a warning to some who may not be at your levels. Boscoe

Edited by - Boscoe on 1/4/2005 12:26:17 PM

Post Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:38 am

Different creatures?

A group of aliens, banded togeather in a common religion, calling themselves the Covenant. They declared a holy war on humans. Not much more is known.

Edited by - Finalday on 1/1/2005 7:38:37 AM

Post Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:49 am

the Covenant ment that they would kill all humans right?

I think i better read the books

Let the chunks FLY!!
-Me(on UT2k4)

Post Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:11 pm

they probably thought the humans were just another species to conquer

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Post Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:48 pm

Oooh, I was wondering when someone would post a topic like this!
In my occasional visits to HBO, I found a page that I liked tremendously that was very similar to it. On it, they discussed and argued about the Halo story and connections to other things, etc. A very interesting page, which enlightened me a lot on the mysteries surrounding Halo. Could be a good tool to any wanting to discuss such things here.

Link here.

Warning! Minor Halo and Halo 2 spoilers ahead!

Good questions to start with:

Who were the Forerunner?
Why did the Forerunner build the Halos?
What connections do the Forerunner have to the Covenent?
What destroyed the Forerunner?
Why did the Forerunner create the Flood?
What is the significence of the "Ark" in Halo 2?
What is the significence between humans and the Forerunner?
Why are the symbols on the Elites and the Forerunner runes so similar?

I will come up with more once I think of them.

I think that the Covenent hate the humans because the humans were encroaching (unknowingly) on the Forerunner artifacts. If you read the books, you notice that almost all the important Forerunner artfacts were found on human worlds. The Slipstream bending crystal on Reach, the coordinates for Halo at Cote d' Azure, and obvious things on Earth, since the Covenent came there as well, and not because they knew it was the human home, but because they were looking for another artifact there, which explains the "small" fleet sent there at the beginning of Halo 2. The Covenent consider the Forerunner artifacts to be holy relics of their ancestors or creators, and think that the humans were trying to steal them for their own purposes. So, they attacked the humans in a holy jihad, and are attempting to annilhate their supposed "rivals" for the rights to the artifacts. These artifacts are obviously holy to them, or at least wanted by their Prophets, who can use their power in the Covenent to call a holy jihad on the humans for these much-desired artifacts that can tell them more about their predecessors and can find more Halos to help in their "Great Journey". Overall, the humans are getting between the Covenent and their means of starting the "Great Journey", the Halos, so the Covenent have chosen to crush the humans.

Post Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:01 pm

but at the end of halo 2 the covenant find out what halo's true purpose is.

Post Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:55 pm

That IS the destruction of sentient life, right?
I just hinished the original halo for PC a few days ago, and was a bit dissapointed to see then end of the beautiful ring.

Post Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:55 am

The books also emphasize that the Covenants steal and borrow their technologies from someone else. And the Covenant AI yelled "Heresy!" at Cortana when she performed a slipstream jump so close to a gravitational source (Threshold Gas Giant). Why would such a thing considered heresy? indeed the Covies NEVER jump into a planet's atmosphere when they in fact can do so. They always choose the hard way - by having to deal with planetary defenses, even when they can bypass them.

Post Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:41 am

the covenant hate humans because of our heresy.

Humans ARE the forerunner. theyre the same species. But walking around with the same appearance to their gods has gotten them annoyed somewhat.
343 guilty spark says only a redeemer can activate halo. At first, you think maybe redeemer is the label of a great warrior, one like the master chief who has proven himself. Halo 2 has miranda keyes being the reclaimer, the arbiter is by far the superior warrior in the room, yet on the human can activate or deactivate halo. Tartarus has the index and gives it to keyes to put in, he could have done it himself but only a human reclaimer can activate halo.

343 guilty spark talks the the chief in halo about why he would hesitate to do something he's already done. We learn that the halo network has already been activated once before so if only a human can activate halo, there must have been humans BEFORE the extinction, humans that could fly in space and activate halo. Humans at that time were advanced enough to create a network of rings that only they themselves could activate.

The covenant hate us because despite centuries of dedication to forerunner technology, we're the ones with the power

Post Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:31 am

Is Halo2 Xbox only? If so, anyone heard of plans to bring it to the PC? I guess I should pick up Halo1 and give it a shot. I think amazon has it for about $15 or so now. (Then again they may have raised the price with Halo coming out.....)

@Arcon: Glad to see you here and posting!!! Welcome back

Edited by - Boscoe on 1/2/2005 10:00:41 AM

Post Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:07 pm

@Boscoe- At the momnet, Halo 2 is XBOX only. Bungie has expressed its intent to release Halo 2 on PC sometime thins year, though.

Post Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:33 pm

Well well well time to get started

Jacob the sysbols on the back of the eliets ARE forunner sysbols that teh eleteis use to show there devotion

The forunners were killed when they actived there halos teh first time


Hmmmmm now as for this ark hmmmm reckon it has anything to do with the old bible story i mean THE FLOOD that consumed everything but the ARK saved a few people just a though

Post Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:22 pm

its possible earth is the ark.

Post Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:53 am

There are halo books.?? Anyways where did the flood come from? They looks like zombies, whe you see some up close, they look like humans, but zombified, mabye they are the forerunners or something, and soomething went wrong, and they all turned into zombies... Yeah i know its crazy and stupid, but hey anythings possible, hehe. Unless there's an actual explanation to where the flood came from...

Post Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:04 am

ive been reading on that site, that everyone thinks the flood where discovered by the forerunners, and put in halo... so i gues my crazy theory was wrong...

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