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Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:30 am

CERN

Ahoy!
i have a lot of luck lately - my dads cousin lives in Geneva (Switzerland) and he works for CERN, one of the biggest research institutes in these times. He will retire in a couple of weeks, but he offered us to give us an exclusive tour through the area.

all in all, it was huge, interesting, simply - "fascinating"

here is some stuff about the things ive seen. so far only links to their offitial sites, maybe ill upload my pics and post them when i get to do it. (the whole research is public, so i could make lotsa pics)

linkies:

CERN:
link

ATLAS (the experiment):
link
(nice media stuff here)

a few interesting facts:
CERN has the largest particle accelerator on earth. ~9km diameter, ~27km long. its 100m below the surface for several reasons (radiation shielding, ...)

it is funded by an international comitee - countries can join in and fund the research there. if either country is in a state of war, CERN closes for that time and all research is stopped. CERN is not bound to a country, even if its located partially in switzerland and france. its kinda independant.
the offitial languages are french and english, but i found it fascinating that my relative who showed us the site could speak to 5 different ppl in their mother languages (french, english, german, hungarian, russian).
when CERN runs its experiments, they need ~1/3-1/2 of the power as Genf (Geneva) needs.
CERN has the biggest data storage in the world. dont ask me how many TB it is... :roll: donno exactly but ill try to find out. but i know that when experiments run, then several GB of data is produced every second. (and that needs years to be processed and analyzed)

the guys(and girls) there dont use current technologies, they plan the things for hardware that will exist a few years in the future.
this is of course a great thing for the industry - the latest prototypes are in action there.

ATLAS was just one of the experiment buildups there. there are several. ATLAS is simply soooo huge.

link webcam pics, updated every couple of mins i think.
tha complete hall will be filled by the 40m long and 22m wide "ATLAS". it weighs ~11000 tons and will be finished in 2-3 years.
it will be used for all kinds of experiments in the future. the big ring stands still at the moment, there are also a few other huge experiments of similar scale that are built at the same time.

i was simply blown away by all this. great weekend would do this anytime again.

Fjord

edit: PS: forgot to mention: to everyone who played the old Half-Life: visit CERN if u can, its just sooooooo similar the arhitecture, the tunnels, the research equipments, database centers - all veryvery familiar

Edited by - LordFjord on 12/7/2004 12:34:18 AM

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:15 am

if there is a dr freeman working there, tell him never to push any buttons again

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:19 am

Lucky bum .

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:22 am

Sweet dude! Aren`t they developing some uber CERN machine at the moment?

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:52 am

what do u mean by "machine"? they are building soo much stuff there.

btw, i found an interesting article about the datastorage stuff there:
link

28TB ...
1 TB in 30 mins ...

"The LHC is expected to produce some 15 petabytes of data per year after it is switched on in 2007."...

"CERN opencluster include a data challenge where storage-to-tape rates of over 1GB/s were maintained for hours" ...

"The project recently managed more than 100 simultaneous SAN File System clients and over 28 terabytes of storage distributed among 10 storage servers." ...

hmmmm, this stuff is good

*must go back there...*

Fjord

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:07 am

This is totally fascinating. I hope it can run Freelancer.

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:12 am

talk about processing power

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:02 am

Pfft... "If only I had a brain..." I could work there...

Actually, If you want to talk about Processing power, think of what supercomputers are now. Up to 3 million parallel processors, don't even want to count the memory, forget the HDD space... The only problem is that it cant even ballance a check book, or play pong...

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:27 am

holy cow, ive got to get one of those

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:07 pm

What? A brain, or a supercomputer? Both?

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:02 pm

ive already got a brain, its so big that i can read your thoughts, teleport and send destructo rays at anything i want.

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:06 pm

But can YOUR brain play Freelancer? If not, it pales in comparison to most computers

Post Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:13 pm

my brain cant play freelancer, or do 1,000,000,000,000 mathmatical calculations per second, but it has conscious thought, something computers will never have. (probably)

Post Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:13 am

back to topic
anyone else seen some similar things yet?
CERN was the 2nd particle accelerator ive visited.
1st was DESY (in Hamburg, Germany) - was also impressive but not nearly as huge as CERN. the "big" accelerator of DESY is as big as the "small" in CERN

Fjord

Post Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:22 pm

sorry to put this ot again: if a computer where built with the same computing power as the human brain, it would be taller than the empire state building, even using todays computer tech.

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