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the ultimate privacy invasion

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Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:38 am

the ultimate privacy invasion

talk about privacy..


LONDON - A new X-ray machine at London's Heathrow airport, which sees through passengers' clothes...



imo this idea should be lined up and shot. doesn't matter if its the same sex or anything. this is total violation of rights and should only be used when absolutely necessary. everyone has the right to reject this scan. in fact, it should only be used on extremely suspicious passengers.

and whats to say harmful objects can't pass through the scanner? afterall, its the human eye that will be 'scanning'. its so easy to conceal so many things from the human eye.

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:45 am


this is total violation of rights and should only be used when absolutely necessary


imho, in our current climate to save innocent lives, it IS absolutely necessary.

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:02 am

Is this supposed to pickup objects that cannot be detected by metal detectors? LIke C4? Seems to me dogs would be just as good.

Also, why were those who were interviewed only women. Weren't there any men involved in the scanning>

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:30 am

hmm, X-Rays aint very healthy, even in very low doses. imagine a businessman taking 2 flights a day, thats (extraggerrated) 2 times through the machine per day.
x-rays can cause mutations -> cancer - even if hte chance is low if you gte scanned once, if you do it repeatedly, its still a (slightly) increased risk that adds up with the increased rad that ppl face when flying.

xrays get absorbed/reflected by solid materials - bones, knives, prolly also C4, ...
BUT you are permitted to take a couple of things on a plane that are bigger.
take a laptop, hide a knife with a hard-plastic blade in the case, ...

the ways to get things onto planes are endless. imo what really helps to prevent hijacking are a few secrutiy personel on boards. expensive, i know, but its the most effective IMO.

Fjord

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Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:43 am

@LF,

Actually, I often fly twice in a day. To and from a business visit. So, yes, I conceivably could be subject to low dose x-ray exposure.... total body exposure at that .... twice in a day. Some weeks I have three or four of these day trips lined up.

Not something I'd want to have to do if I can avoid it.... From a health perspective, I'll have to change the way I do business. No more circuit flying. for me.

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:47 am

indy cant you drive or take a train? or is your business international?

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:36 am

It wouldn't be advisable for me to go through one of those. I'd embarasse the same sex operator on the other side

I personally wouldn't have any problems with this. If it is effective in picking up suspicious content, then fine, it will do its job.

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:09 am

@ff

I travel inside the US but it is a big place and my time is sometimes limited.

Fastest way to get from place to place is by lane.


If you have an atlas, here's one of my more elaborate itineraries from this year:

Day 1: Fly from NYC to Knoxville, Tn.
Leave Knoxville same day, fly to Dallas Tx.

Day 2: Leave Dallas for Fresno, Ca.

Day 3: Leave Fresno for Denver, Co.

Day 4: Fly home from Denver to NYC.

I wouldn't be able to cover the distances involved in the same fashion
if I drove.

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:30 am

lordfjord said..


the ways to get things onto planes are endless. imo what really helps to prevent hijacking are a few secrutiy personel on boards. expensive, i know, but its the most effective IMO.


i have to agree with that. some security personell. enought overpower terrorists. i never understood why there were none of them on board.

besides, how do you scan for knowledge in hand to hand combat? knives and guns arent absolutely necessary to hijack a plane.

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:43 am

well in that case, remember to smile when you go through the machine

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:48 am

Meh - hijackers should no longer be able to get through cockpit doors, and in the modern day climate, the pilots shouldn't open them regardless of how many are butchered in the back either!!!!

As for the machine - I have seen the scan images - its no photograph image at all, its b&w - its certainly not going to be good for pervs, even if you have a good imagination.
However, would be funny to see what sort of a rucus the stars would make

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:25 am

@ff

After a while, I won't need lights at night as I'll glow in the dark.

@All,

All this security can only be meant to deter and discourage the rank amateur or the incidental opportunit. A truly determined effort would deploy resources to get around the passenger security and attack at some other weak point.

Also, this security really is only as good as the security personnel there to execute it. Don't about the others but some of these security personnel are far from, er, geniuses ... to say the least.

Edited by - Indy11 on 11/15/2004 10:27:36 AM

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:43 am

Why don't they just use metal detectors and sniffer dogs? Actually, they already do! Why this then?

___Corsair~MMIV
Reasons I'm better than you: #78468- I have squiggly lines in my name.

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:58 am

Look at it like this, the next step is anal probing!

Post Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:57 pm

I read about that last week and I think that it is a grievous invasion of privacy. It smacks of desperation if you ask me; paranoia is running rampant. Still, I respect that . As for this technology being the "ultimate privacy invasion", I disagree. Technology will become MUCH more invasive than that in the future. *Straightens aluminium-foil hat*.

Edited by - esquilax on 11/15/2004 2:57:52 PM

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