they're probably jealous about your maturity worry about more important things. like your admin password

if i may say so arania, you seem to worry a little to much, dont worry, things will work out in the end have you tried talking to them?

Edited by - freighter fighter on 11/14/2004 1:12:05 AM

turns out teenagers are idiots, it could be that you didnt goto that camp that did it. That or you may be overlooking the influence of another member on the group who is making a power play. do they hang around with anyone new or with someone who doesnt realy like you that much, he may be in charge now. High school is so much politics and rubbish sometimes

Arcon - please, mind the language!

Edited by - Chips on 11/14/2004 6:31:06 AM
sorry, i just type and expect it to be blocked, noted that english swears are not allowed

Edited by - Arcon on 11/14/2004 11:29:34 AM

One thing you should seriously consider is that you may be the problem. I dont want to sound like a total harda** but you really outh to turn your gaze inward as well. Do you talk about how "mature", "intelligent" or "responsible" you are when you are around these people? If so, stop. People *hate* hearing others go on about how much better they are. If you don't, then don't worry; it's as Arcon said.

well, there are these certain people, they hang out with someone for a long time, and get "tired" of them. trust me, i know this stuff. one of my friends are one of those people, the only reason i have been his friend for 7 years, is because i don't hang out with him all the time.

I was new at my secondary school, made a group of friends, everything was peachy. After a while though a few lads through out the year starting acting the fool (trying to provoke me etc) til eventually I got into a few fights (sadly for the my opponents I happen to excel at Judo - was only a brown belt at the time - Second Dan Black Now ) needless to say I won, each and everytime. After that I was pretty much the big dog . To cut a long story short:

"Knock out the biggest, baddest kid there and make sure everybody see's it"

Rule thtough the fear of force rather than force itself (assuming your not a martial artist)

Stand up for yourself matey, whoop the occasional a** if you have to. Worked for me.

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... sadly for the my opponents I happen to excel at Judo - was only a brown belt at the time - Second Dan Black Now...

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Second dan, eh? Not bad. I just got my brown earlier this year. What's your favourite throw? I'm partial to hane makikome and harai-goshi myself (simple yet effective, both of them).

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One thing you should seriously consider is that you may be the problem. I dont want to sound like a total harda** but you really outh to turn your gaze inward as well. Do you talk about how "mature", "intelligent" or "responsible" you are when you are around these people? If so, stop. People *hate* hearing others go on about how much better they are. If you don't, then don't worry; it's as Arcon said.

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To Codename you listen, save you it can!

Seriously don't go around saying how immature everyone is, it really isn't a redeeming quality and you'll most likely get your ass kicked for it. I don't know why you teens are so bloody eager to grow up though, I'd give anything to be back in your place.

I tried Judo and didnt like it, I went on to other Kung Fu styles (Bagwa, Long Fist, Kong Su Do, Tiger/Crane) My personal favorite is Chin-Na, err, joint manipulation, very cool stuff. Anyway, on to the subject at hand, theres a difference in saying your mature and being mature. I was probably the most mature of all my friends during my school years but I never made it stand out (like talking down to someone for instance) . And whatever school your in theres always the politics, errr, you know, like when you and a few friends hang out and then they go get to know someone else and they hang around him from there on in. Usually these little groups revolve around a girl. In any case, the way I looked at it was, you know, if you wanna hang out thats cool, if not, ****off then, if they backstab you or whatever just tell em to **** off. Having friends is great but to uhm, overuse a old quote "with friends like that, you dont need enemies" so just find better friends. I always made a point never to chase after someone to be a friend, just hang out be yourself, your bound to make friends sooner or later.

"Dain bramaged"

I agree with Codename aswell.
I've had a hard time at school and I always blamed "the others". Sure they were guilty of some things, but at some point I was the one who caused it.
This might sound strange but in some way I was trying to get their attention by annoying them which made them pick on me. The stupid things you do when you're young...
Took me a lot of time to figure that one out. Also, I was a wise a$$, which is generaly not apreciated; not when you're young, and not when you're older. Maturity has nothing to do with it in fact. Emphasising your maturity, like Codename sugested, only makes matters worse.

Try and keep your distance and find out who your true friends are. They don't have to be at school, but for instance living close by, or maybe a family member. Sometimes the best friends are those you least expect it from.
Just don't be afraid to get hurt. I know from my own personal experience that this is very hard to get over, but it's crucial if you want to make friends.

Don't worry mate, I think you'll turn out alright, just don't let hate consume you. Look at yourself every now and then and wonder if you're making the right choices. Listen to your heart and don't let anger get the best of you.

And ask for help if you realy don't know what to do. Here is a good place, but I would strongly sugest someone closer to you. Forums are so un-personal, if you know what I mean.