Something is rotten in the state of Denmark

Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:49 am by sycho warrior

Anyone recognize the quote?
It's said by marcellus a night watchman in the castle in Elsinore.
I'm busy studying Hamlet for exam, the whole book, counts 30 marks.
Just wondering if anyone of you got sth interesting to tell me about the story/meanings of the story or any stuff that might help.
It will be greatly appreciated
My faveroutie quote is one by Hamlet, CLaudius asks him where he hid the body of Polonius and Hamlet answers: "In heaven. Send thither to see. If your messenger find him not there, seek him i'th' other place yourself"
nice way of telling someone tog o to hell

Sigs are so overrated. I would never think of us..uhm nevermind
linky

Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:22 am by Esquilax

I love Hamlet! What would you like to discuss?

Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:31 am by sycho warrior

Hmm, Hamlet doing what he finds disgusting to reach his goal.
The way Hamlet acts towards Ophelia.
Did Ophelia really love Hamlet.
Is H really better than Claudius
And anything else u think is importabt, interesting

Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:49 am by Tawakalna

watch the film (Mel Gibson) it's very very good. should give you excellent insight into the relationships. how did you ever pass exams without TLR and the Interschweb?

Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:07 am by sycho warrior

Erm I got straight A's?
I dont have time to watch films, besides the modern stuff is useless
We've watched the old version, cant remember who played in it but the dude who did Hamlet was excellent.

Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:44 am by Tawakalna

*dude*

you mean Sir (later Lord) Lawrence Olivier, one of the finest actors ever to have tread the boards?

there's also an excellent post-Mel version bu Ken Branagh, again one of our very finest actors, and most certainly not a *dude*

I see there's some serious education needs inputting to the younger members of TLR (except Arcon and Code and certain other exceptions)

Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:47 am by sycho warrior

If he has white hair yes its him, well dude why not

Edited by - studying_warrior on 10/16/2004 9:51:51 AM

Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:56 pm by -------

I saw the one with Kenneth Branagh. VERY well done. I actually read the play. The writing isn't easy to get past. But there is a very good story if you can get past the writing. That's the only play of Shakespeare's that I've read.

Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:26 pm by Indy11

Did Ophelia love Hamlet? In the play, that is what we are supposed to understand to be the case. But you won't see any overtly affectionate scenes between them. I'd say more time is spent to show how she's gone over the deep end than on whether her love for Hamlet is real. But the play's logic partly depends upon Ophelia being in love with Hamlet.

Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:12 am by sycho warrior

indy why I'm asking, is if she really loved him, would she have listened to Polonius and not answered Hamlets love, would she have allowed herself to be used as a pawn.
We learn that the truly loved Hamlet, but I dont fully agree with it.

YOu get used to Shakespeares way of writing, I read Hamlet for the third time this year this week, and its getting easier, but then again we had to do Merchant of Venice and Romeo and Juliet as well, so you get used to it. Why did I ever takeenglis as a first language

Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:37 am by Tawakalna

yes it must be very difficult for you in Umboto Gorge, where only a few short years ago you were boiling missionaries in pots. Why don't you go and grab a spear and hunt a lion or something, it'll make you feel better and you can swap the skin for some beads, a mirror, and a roll of brightly coloured cloth.

MoV is excellent, def one of Willy's better efforts. if you think WS is hard, try Ibsen; I saw "Ghosts" "Hedda Gabbler" and "The Master Builder" some years back and my brain was numbed trying to figure out the psychological sub-texts - Ibsen really makes you work.

Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:43 am by sycho warrior

MoV wasn't that nice iirc, I cant really even remember what happended.
WS isn't that diffucult or the stories isn't, its the language he uses that makes it difficult, esp if you dont even know all the proper english words :S

Lion hunting, not a bad idea, but its not allowed anymore

Chief M'bewzi said we're making the forefather spirits angry if we kill the lions.

Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:14 am by Tawakalna

what do you mean you cant remember what happened? of course it isnt nice, its about usury and racism! the whole point of it is, is Willy S. being anti-semitic or not? does Shylock deserve to be treated the way he is treated? heavens to betsy it's one of the seminal discussions of racism in the Western world!

Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:18 am by sycho warrior

I only remember parts of it, we did it 2 years ago, forgot most names etc.
Shylock, well, he got got what he wishe someone else didnt he?
It's wasn't because he was a Jew that he got a pound of flesh got cur of, its becuase of his own hatred and trickery.

Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:33 am by Megistos

Shylock wanted revenge against the Christians who had spurned him, and thus makes the deal "If I don't get my money back on time, I get a pound of your flesh". Nobody thought he was serious.

The question is whether Shakespeare is portraying Jews or Christians as evil. Elements of both come across in the play.

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