Jan van Ribeeck built it? gimme a while I'll search for a pic
Casle of good hope
history/haunted castle
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We built it against you



Edited by - studying_warrior on 10/10/2004 5:08:14 AM

Edited by - studying_warrior on 10/10/2004 5:27:33 AM

didn't work, did it?

not really a "castle" is it? - more of a fort really.

now this is a castle! or it was, until Wales was tragically lost into the sea *sniff*


Edited by - Tawakalna on 10/10/2004 6:51:01 AM

well...

sw - that looks more like a fortified manor house than a castle!

Castles

There you will find SOME castles (certainly not even remotely all the ones in ol Blighty!). Now - if you go to Ashby-De-La-Zouch caslte, third picture in the gallery..........I once had a lil bit of naughtyness in that watchtower

*edit* - my old school backs onto that castle by the way

Edited by - Chips on 10/10/2004 6:07:48 AM

They call it a castle, who am I to argue, the thing is a couple of centuries older than what I am
and it had to be fortified against you brits

enuff castles!

here's my

no1 Guggenheim Museum, Noo Dworkia (there's Ed in the taxi btw) This is a piece of sculpture manifested as a building; it's ground-breaking and magnificent, and I've never been anywhere that's such a ideal display area for art. it's magnificent.

no 2 Cathedral at Ronchamps, Phrantz. This is sublime. Corbusier's masterpiece.

no 3 AyaSofya, Istanbul. So much to see and do in Istanbul, but the Great Church is the most wonderful. Try going early in the morning before the tourists turn up and the attendants are just lighting the lamps and you could imagine yourself back in the dreamy panoply of Byzantium, carried away on an illusion of golden saints and emperors.

do bridges and dams count as architecture, or civil engineering? I can see the attraction, but to what extent can they be described as having aesthetic expression other than utilitarianism (note that is not q the same as functionalism)




Edited by - Tawakalna on 10/10/2004 10:12:51 AM

civil engineering imo, they perform a function, and where built with that function in mind, aesthetics arent usually considered.

yes, quite correct. but is there not an aesthetic of pure utilitarianism that makes itself apparent? FD's dam is, to my eyes, really rather beautiful in it's simplicity and the geometry of its curve. but that was assuredley never the intention of the design-engineers.

I disagree, to refer back to the maxim..... form following function, bridges, dams and tunnels do this to the utmost, and yet they do not all look the same. Some have a beautiful and graceful aesthetic while others are ugly brutes.

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Let's take the Great Pyramids as an example. Are they the work of architecture or are they feats of civil engineering?

Edited by - Indy11 on 10/10/2004 8:04:27 PM

Civil engineering is function over form, where as architecture is an almalgamation of design, function and form.

but then there where architects who designed the pyramids, and it was a job for the masses when the nile flooded the farmland.

depending on your viewpoint, i would say it is both.

Why don't you like castles Taw?

Civil engineering or architecture?

Edited by - Indy11 on 10/11/2004 6:30:05 AM

if you look carefully you can see me there!

esqy, i love castles.

Edited by - Tawakalna on 10/11/2004 6:45:18 AM

Who needs Disneyland?



If you look carefully you can see Taw there.



Edited by - Indy11 on 10/11/2004 7:26:30 AM