some serious roman catholisism here, the jesuits were around at the time of queen elizabeth and the spanish armada when england was a protestant country

a bit not too much...

Yeah, after about a week that was made obvious.

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Some questions I have...
If you throw a cat out a car window does it become kitty liter?
If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Why do people who know the least know it the loudest?

Jesuits - the Fedayeen and KGB of the Roman Catholic Church, founded by Ignatius Loyola, a soldier who became a monk, and organised his new order on military lines and put it at the disposal of the Pope. Loyola was made a saint, btw. Jesuits were/are highly intelligent and learned, fiercely devoted, courageous yada yada and there's much to be admired about them. They made contact with Japan and much of the East as part of their missionary zeal, set up outposts around the globe and were racing to calculate longitude accurately. They were adventurers and opened up a lot of N America. Also great promoters of education, and indoctrination of the young.

They were also much to be feared. Secretive and powerful, they were ruthless in disposing of their enemies by any means necessary, spied on longs and princes, acted as a secret police force for the Pope and Catholic monarchs, esp in Spain and France, and fear of their return helped bring about the Glorious Revolution of 1688 and the end of the Stuarts. Like many secret services, they became a state within a state, ensuring the elections of sympathetic popes to strengthen their order even more and not limiting their skullduggery to foreign realms.

In the propogation of the Faith (C of R version), they were the more adept at gaining entry into the courts of the Asian kingdoms and empires. They did not proselytize so much as secure recognition of the Church and try to establish diplomatic rights of entry into those domains.

Dominican and Franciscan missionaries from those older and, at one time, more powerful Orders, proved unable to effectively deal with the political sophistication already well developed in Asia. Dominicans were, basically, too arrogant and the Franciscans too unlearned.

Because of the Jesuits' affinity to dogmatic orthodoxy, education and knowledge, they figure very prominently in the founding of numerous universities around the globe. It is said that there are more prominent Catholic universities founded and run by Jesuits in the US than any other Catholic Order. Certainly there are a few that are nationally famous. To name just two: Georgetown and Fordham. And there are a whole bunch of "Loyola" universities sprinkled about the country, named after.... guess who

The largest English language University in Tokyo is Sophia University ... yes, a Jesuit founded and run institution which also has a much larger Japanese language college at the same campus.

So many words :p

We have a jesiut school ca. 50 meters from my home - it's a nest of punks and goths

Life is sexually transmitted

well, you'd expect that sort of imagery in teen rebellion at a catholic school

Damn governments and their disapproval of our classic Jesuit corporeal punishment!

My highschool was a wussy Carmelite school - I used to envy the Jesuit school at the other end of the town. It was famous for its discipline - units that train there gain a +2 honour and +1 virtue and morale

Thanks for all the help!
I really like my school.

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Some questions I have...
If you throw a cat out a car window does it become kitty liter?
If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Why do people who know the least know it the loudest?

Jesuits were formed in the counter-reformation to mitigate the effects of Mr. Luther, if memory serves correct. And their schools are generally very good. It's the nuns you have to look out for. --- VH16

I am Nobody; Nobody is Perfect; Therefore, I am Perfect

Jesuit schools are very good, very good indeed. I wasn't taught by jesuits, but by a missionary order called the Marists. They were strict, but pansies compared to the Jesuits. A Jesuit education, if you don't have to put with any perjoritative approbrium, is a marvellous grounding for later life. a decent proprotion of senior clerics, diplomats, military officers, politicians around the world are from jesuit backgrounds. In many ways, it's very admirable.