The beginer issue is because they refered to Nicole as a ledgen, which she is not. Kathren Hepburn, Maurene Stapelton, Betty Grable, those are ledgens, not some one as young as Nicole. She has not earned that right as of yet.

Spelling errors due to this being done at work, no spell checker.

are you sure you're not letting your reaction to the film in question, and her part in it, to colour your opinion of her as an actress? she's rather good you know. "Legend" is a bit much imho, but she's def a big star and deservedley so. She's really matured as an actress since she ditched Tom (and he's obv benefited by it too, 'cos i rate himnow and I used to think he was just a himbo) and she does take odd parts. I saw The Hours the other day and she was excellent as Virginia Woolf, who i imagine is very difficult to portray.

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or reduce the trauma or soemthing

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trauma? you sure you're not confusing this with maybe a secret camera filming of child abuse?
theyre both serious actors, there's a whole film crew and production team off camera, i'd hardly call the actuality of the situation intimate. im sure he wasnt traumatised in the least, in fact, look at kidman, she's a hottie! he could do worse.

Taw a Legend is someone with , in my opinion, 40 or more years acting,having done a wide range of movie/show types. Nicole, to me is ok, but just that. She was good in a few that I have seen, including the tom cruise one where she was either Scottish or Irish, can't remember right now. But I still would not put her up high, even without this movie in question. We have so many actresses these days, they are flooding the field with movies, but that arn't that good. It takes a good presentation to win me over. I have to believe they are the character and then I would say i liked them.

surely legend status would be in the eye of the beholder, not only when society says its ready. i'd say kidman wasnt a legend per se, but when you compare them with stars from the golden age of cinema, when men were men and women were women, and films were all filmed in hollywood and they had a touch of glamour to them because we were'nt bombarded with faces of celebrity daily in crappy magazines and tv shows then of course its going to appear like theyre beginners. What contempory actors would you regard as legends?

I don't think contempory actors can be regarded as legends. Well at least none under 60, I think guys like Charlton Heston could defintely be classified as legends but he hasn't worked for years.

Sean Conory, Heston, Christopher Lee,
Females, Debbie Renolds, Lauren Bacall, Lauren hutton,

A relatively young adult female kisses a ten year old boy while both are bathing, out of love.

It isn't clear at all what type of love motivates the kiss, it isn't clear at all why they are bathing. For example, is it really that obvious that if a women believes that her lost husband has been reincarnated in a 10 year old boy, that she will lust after such a child? I don't think so. Is it possible? Yes. Is that what the news article wanted to suggest? Absolutely. Is it true? Don't know.

I know that in older times, a ten year old boy bathing with his mother (who normally would be a young adult) would not have struck much of a chord one way or the other. Today, of course, things have changed in terms of perspective. But there is that fact.

Once upon a time, it cost too much money for most families to constantly refill the tub with hot water for a bath.

The news article while not expressly stating it, suggests that this encounter has sexual undertones. This is disturbing to me. But I understand that this is a news article. And I have seen how such "suggestive" comment relates to scenes in movies which have been edited and redited to make such scenes ambiguous.

So... it is a wait and see.... if I care to see.... which, as it IS Nicole, I know I do but there is another half to consult on this one.

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It is not all that brave to make this movie. Not once Lolita came out.


Edited by - Indy11 on 9/9/2004 6:20:08 PM