Yeah, I saw this awesome show on The Science Channel with a voiceover by Patrick Stewart about how our moon in special. There would be no live without the moon, mainly because it stabilizes planetarry wobble arround the axis. --- VH16

If there is life in the universe, then it would shake up religion to such an extent we'd either have some kind of worldwide meltdown where culture would attack culture, worldwide awakaning where people suddenly put asside there differences because what's been dividing us all these years is acually lies. Religion will go out the window, as for social structure, im sure the corporations will find a way to make a buck out of our new intergalactic neighbors.

if there ISNT life in the universe, then isnt it a very essential obligation for us to spread life as far and as wide as we possibly can as quickly as possible before some rogue meteor comes and puts an end to this little accident of science?


There's still a little bit of your taste, in my mouth,
still a little bit of you laced, with my doubt.

I don't know. Obligation? "Go ye forth and multiply"

I guess maybe so. Given humanity's track record. I think we'll be compelled to spread out because we'll have trashed Earth so badly.

Yep, that's what's gonna happen Indy. Hopefully, we'll all be gone (see "dead" ) by the time that humanity trashes the hell out of the planet.

I honestly and truly believe that there is intelligent life out there. I believe it exists because none of it has tried to contact us. To think that extra terrestrial intelligence doesn't exist is incredibly arrogant. There is NO way in hell, that we are the only intelligent species in the universe. It's inconceivable to me. If there is intelligent life out there, and I do believe there is, I would hope that they wouldn't try to contact or visit us. Knowing how humans are, we would shoot first and ask questions later.

well a few solar systems away people think there is a planet much like earth. in other solar news about 3 months ago they put more probs on mars and the space station should be finished in 2014 roughly, give or take a few years.


oh and all you people form toronto channel 50 beetween shows often has some very intersting stuff on space.


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the problem with sticking humans on other worlds like mars is, that after spending a few generations on a planet with slightly harsher or lacking gravity, the population's physical abilities will change.
In star trek, vulcans are much stronger than humans because they evolved on vulcan which has a harsher pull of gravity so their muscles are attuned to it. its very probable that humans will eventually turn on other humans on other planets for evolving to adapt to their new surroundings.

I dunno, Arcon. Using Star Trek as a model, where poverty and wars were eliminated within 50 years of first contact, Earth becomes the ideal utopia of the world's religions. No crime, no money, just people bettering themselves. Religion doesn't evaporate, it finally suceeds. Besides, the original Enterprise had a chappel on it, so God is alive and well in the 24th century. --- VH16

there was an interesting Isaac Asimov short story, pre-Foundation and Robots, in which Earth wins a war against its more powerful colonies by doing nothing.

Although the colonies in other star systems are richer, more powerful, healthier etc, and Earth is a densely populated disease ridden slum (hmmmm shoorly not) the Colonies achilles heel is that they have to import all their breeding livestock and organic produce seed from Earth to prevent contamination from native sources. They impose a blockade on Earth and defeat its military forces easily, but don't occupy the planet because they don't have the numbers and can't abide it anyway. As the Colonists are xenophobes and paranoically isolationist, as well as being eugenic fanatics to the point of racism, they don't at forst notice the small changes that are now taking place as their animals and produce, as well as their own cells, begin to change and evolve; by the time they do, their first reaction is to try to wipe out mutations and chnages, but this soon becomes a second undoing - they can't arrest the changes without imprting fresh stock from Earth itself, and this isn't politically or culturally acceptable to them. So they are faced with two choices, mutate from their "ideal" or die out. Their various worlds and societies splinter and fragment over time as they become more distinct and "alien" to each other, to the point they can no longer form an homogenous bloc and can't resist a second wave of terran colonists who come streaming out years later.

Many of these ideas were later synthesised into his Foundation and Robot stories. I rather liked that short story though, it made bl**dy good sense.

Edited by - Radio Free Tawakalnistan on 9/4/2004 2:16:04 PM

hmm sad story

but if we colonized mars in the we wouldn't terroform it for a long long time although it is possible with the right technogoys but you would have to launch gases and such into the atmesphere and wait for the changes to happen
so instead of doing that people would make airocked settlement with Arifical gravity. although thsi wouldn't happen for a while.

Fun fact:
the star trek hypospray inspired doctors and such to make a simalar device.


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don't feel sad for them, they were tw*ts to Earth people. Deserved everything they got imho.

There was a program on a while ago about the colonization of mars. They think that if we pollute the planet with greenhouse gases, the thin atmosphere that mars has would effectivly be blocked. With the high levels of carbon dioxide, plants that can survive the planet will be put there to create oxygen. Or something like that

but i would take a little while to do that not to put the gasses but for the gasses to do there stuff