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The Da Vinci Code ***(maybe) Spoiler Alert***

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Post Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:49 am

I continue to say that all this arguing about the Da Vinci Code it's a Protestant problem, we Catholic don't have this kind of problems with a book.

But it's true that it can confuse readers without a religiuos education.
Luckily in Italy, it is a school subject and now they teach about every "big" religion(like Islam)


Edited by - TheHispaniasurvivor on 6/18/2004 12:59:09 PM

Post Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:57 am

I think I've heard about this book, maybe even read it, can't remeber, will have to go look if we have it the only one with code in it which I can see now is THe Altman code but thats by Robert Ludlum

Post Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:17 pm

@Taw,

This may be old hat for you but for the "great unwashed" it doesn't not enter into awareness until someone writes a bestseller.

Post Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:21 pm

It's interesting that this was brought up, as it is very popular here in Aus. too. ICoincidently, my mother picked up a copy out of curiousity a few weeks ago. My brother is reading it though, so by the time I get it this topic will be forgotten !.

Post Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:51 am

Ed, it isn't q as esoteric as that. Holy Blood & Holy Grail was a reasonably popular "non-fiction" bestseller (non-fiction, right) and was very much a departure lounge/book of the month type of read, although purporting to be a work of scholarly research it was, as all these things are, largely a glossing of much-removed "sources" and rehashing old stories. Then they become "sources" themselves! laughable but the market for this stuff siezes on every new publication.

that's why Graham Hancock, for all his falling into many of the same traps, can at least command a bit more respect and attention - he goes and looks for himself, makes effort to find primary sources, he doesn't just regurgitate the same old stuff (until recently)

all this genre of publication, novel or not, predicates itself on the same fallacious logic - there is secret knowledge, the proof of it is that people have been talking about it for years, so it must exist.



Edited by - Tawakalna on 6/19/2004 2:54:09 AM

Post Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:39 am

It is true that Dan Brown writes the novel in a way of a documentary, which then confuses people and gets them thinking. But it is a great way to sell a book. Start a controversy. One group denounces it, and another wants to see what they're denouncing, so that group goes to watch or read it. And let's say that the second group likes it, so they say, "Read this book" or "Watch this movie" while the 1st group says "Don't read this book" or "Don't watch this movie".

It's free advertising. Dan Brown did it, he got on the bestselling authors list. Mel Gibson did it, his movie (The Passion of the Christ) became one of the highest grossing movies of all time. These people play on the emotions and feelings of the public. Some say that's a bad thing, some say that's an ok thing, but after all, the author or director is just looking to make a buck.

By the way, anyone hear of Mr. Brown's next book? Has to do with the secret history of Washington DC. Sounds interesting. Angels and Demons was a particularly good read too, along with his other two books Deception Point and Digital Fortress.

There's an interview with Dan Brown which answers many questions that were posted here.

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Formerly, when religion was strong and science weak, men mistook magic for medicine; now, when science is strong and religion weak, men mistake medicine for magic.

Post Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:47 am

"the secret history of Washington DC"

Freemasons and/or Druids, it's always one of those. My money's on it being Freemasons.

Post Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:24 am

I heard that it would revolve mostly around the Freemasons, yes.

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Formerly, when religion was strong and science weak, men mistook magic for medicine; now, when science is strong and religion weak, men mistake medicine for magic.

Post Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:09 pm

Well I finished TDC yesterday, and it took less than 24-hours for me to read (mainly because I had nothing better to do ). It's a good book as far as it goes, however the mixture of fact, fiction, and supposition means that I had to take everything in the book with a large does of salt. Due to this, it made the book a little unpalatable. Still, in terms of a fictious work, it's not too bad at all.

Post Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:51 am

Speaking of who runs Washington....



Who voted for Masons?

Post Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:10 pm

The pyramid on that note looks very familiar... the all-seeing eye anyone?

Post Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:18 am

well done Esqy. not only is the currency Masonic, the capital city was designed by a Freemason and the Founding fathers were mostly Freemasons.

not of course that I'm suggesting for a second that the seats of power are riddled with Freemasonry, a la "Stonecutters..." erm Great Architect erm Demiurge erm *cough* ! *cough*

Edited by - Tawakalna on 7/2/2004 1:43:28 AM

Post Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:43 pm

LOL. It looks better close up.... D.C. that is.

Post Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:37 pm

Taw - That's freakin' me out. Also, I've just noticed that the Freemasons have a "Grand Lodge" here in (East) Melbourne. It ain't good I tell ya.

Taw/Indy - Tell me more about these Masons. I know a thing or two, but I would like some more information.

Edited by - esquilax on 7/2/2004 10:51:51 PM

Post Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:50 am

*urgh* Freemasons are everywhere. I really don't know where to start to tell you about them an interweb search will bring up thousands of documents, some pro-masonry (including "official" sites) and some anti-masonry; the Catholic Church for example has traditionally been anti-Freemason.

should you ever meet a Freemason, or someone promoting/defending masonry, they will tell you that all the lurid stories of their initiation rites, secret cult activities, blood rituals, corruption and graft amongst those with power and influence etc, are untrue and slanderous, and in reality Freemasons are a charitable institution working for good in the community, a bit like the Rotary Club.

yeh right. the Rotarians don't hang traitors to their cause under a bridge over the Thames in a ritualistic fashion. Rotarians don't fund extreme right-wing factions around the world. Rotarians don't form a secret inner caucus of government and judiciary and military and police. Rotarians didn't plant the bomb that killed dozens of people at Bologna railway station.

Freemasons would have you believe that their "Great Architect" of the Universe is the Christian God that millions worship, but that's not what they believe; the Great Architect is the Demiurge, a corrupted and divorced emanation of God that created this world of imperfect matter, sort of like Satan but with more power.

Most Freemasons are businessmen, coppers, judges, politicians etc, and in the main their activities are harmless and indeed often charitable. But there has been and still remains an inner core of Masonry that carries on a synarchical bourgeois reactionary agenda.

You can also rest assured that everytime Freemasonry is discussed on the web, Freemasons know about it. I'm currently looking at a Freemason's site where there is a list of thousands of people who've written anti-Masonic sentiments on the internet

our American cousins might find this and this interesting..



Edited by - Tawakalna on 7/3/2004 8:52:46 AM

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