i'm just gonna wait till my sis drags mum out to buy the cd's. meanwhile i'll get around to watching troy.

well said esky

i myself cannot stand harry potter. (or as i like to refer to him - hairy pothead)
i found it was too 'childish', and the fact the only fantasy i read is discworld novels, would explain that fact. i just dont see what all the fuss is about, and why everyone keeps going on about it. i rate it about a 9 on the Viator-suck-o-meter, meaing i will avoid this at all costs. (sorry to all hairy pothead fans.)

Viator - Traveller of Time and Space (mostly space... the time thing keeps screwing up when i try to go backwards)

i've found an article at a forum of one of my schoolmates, which i'm sure many of you will definitely appreciate. it's a good laugh

Harry Potter is a powerful menace inflicted upon our society to disillusionise children and destroy their futures. Drug use, family abuse and demonic teachings are all predominant motifs in this accursed novel. J.K. Rowling’s evil genius of subtle manoeuvrings through the book to create a subliminal message of hatred and evil is very much underdocumented. The malevolence hidden is only second to that of the Maestro himself – Bill Gates and his brainchild Microsoft. What’s this you say? ‘Harry Potter is not evil!’ and ‘You have no idea what you are talking about!’ Ahhh, so you are sceptical, with good reason. But you must read between the lines to comprehend the evil teachings, and since most of you are too lazy to find them yourselves. I shall unlock them for you myself.

One of the major underlying themes in Harry Potter is the promotion of Drug use. Throughout the novels, we constantly encounter Potions and other additives. Potions is merely a nice sounding word covering the darker and more sinister meaning of Saturated Cocaine or some drug mixed with alcohol. Furthermore, the drug use demonstrated in Harry Potter has no adverse side effects and is instead glorified. “But wouldn’t a strengthening potion do the trick?” (Line 4, Pg229, The Chamber of Secrets) Here, the used of steroids is exemplified as a “potion” and there was no harmful side effects. Another aspect of drug use encountered in Harry Potter is the “magical” cures. Anything from decapitation to removal of skeletal structure can be cured in a few hours if not days! This stroke is deliberately aimed at the heart of our society – the young children and our already flailing health care system. For these reasons children are more likely to take risks and hurt themselves oblivious to the fact that some of these hurts cannot be cured! Another mystery: Why is J.K. Rowling so rich? Problem solved! Not from those measly royalties received from book sales, but Cold hard Cash from drug barons and tobacco giants (companies, not actual giants). From these facts, it is now easier to understand the grand scheme of J.K. Rowling.

Family abuse and encouragement of domestic violence is demonstrated clearly by the Dursley family. Harry Potter constantly abuses the Dursleys, not the other way around as most of you believe; They are merely reacting to the threat of foreign powers. ‘‘A man’s house is his own castle.’’ This famous cliché encapsulates the terror and the frustration of the Dursleys. They are not secure even in their very own home from a potentially fatal threat – Harry Potter. Juvenile readers of Harry Potter would take these lessons to the heart and thus the next generation of wife-beaters and delinquents is born. This negative influence is already being reflected upon the global scale. Harry Potter ignores his Uncle’s commands, children will ignore their parents commands; Harry Potter escapes from the house, children will escape their own homes and tread path of the damned and live in the streets; Harry Potter is annoyed so he deliberately provokes Dudley, America is annoyed and invades unnamedcountry ... The similarities are endless.

Magic, sorcery, enchantment, bewitchment, jinxes, charms… you name it, it’s all there in Harry Potter. There are certain aspects of death mentioned in the book. “Headmaster Dumbledore: ‘To the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” This is basically implying reincarnation. Readers, especially young children and stressed adults seeking an easy way out from the way of the world are seduced by the promise of magic and enchantments. The magic is nothing more than a lie to deceive the gullible and the willing, and those willing to take on the chances of reincarnation; suicide. (and do not get reincarnated unless u can prove me wrong). The bible expressedly states this. “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” (Ecclesiastes 12:7). By disassociating magic and supernatural evil, it becomes possible to portray occult practices as ‘good’ and ‘healthy,’ contrary to the scriptural declaration that such practices are ‘detestable to the Lord.’ This, in turn, opens the door for kids to become fascinated with the supernatural while tragically failing to seek or recognize the one true source of supernatural good – namely God.

Harry Potter has harmed and will continue to alter the course of society to J.K. Rowling’s own ends. The problem with the Harry Potter series is that Evil is presented in an attractive, ‘wholesome’ package. The diverting of the beliefs of the younger generation is the harbinger of evil manifested as Harry Potter.


EDIT : noticed the name of the country afterwards

Edited by - cookie[blackknight on 6/5/2004 11:59:27 PM

I actually looked into this HP thing quite a lot, most of what this article say is true, and my meaning is not based on one source, I'll try to find some of the stuff I have.


Edited by - sycho_warrior on 6/6/2004 12:19:30 AM

sw, it isn't a 'report'. it's more just a poke of fun at 'hairy pothead'

cookie poke of fun or not, what is said there is true

ow well looks like its a good thing almost nobody here is not interested in HP

Edited by - sycho_warrior on 6/6/2004 12:26:03 AM

soz, i didn't know you were talking about the virus following it around.

wow. just finished book 5. i've been intending to read it for ages, but got stuck on school books - like "Stalin" by Isaac Deutscher. book 5 is kinda okay. she's going downhill. there's too much 'harry is kickass' and 'harry is going thru puberty', and not enough 'harry is lost and doesn't know what's going on'. the first 3 books were prob. just too good.

What a load of crap !

That article is nothing but a critic's opinion, and a rather poorly written one if I may say so. " Drug Use", and "Reincarnation" are the main themes of the book ?I would have never realised the DUMBLEDORE is the symbol of "suicide" and "Reincarnation", until this (Sarcasm) Enlightened (/Sarcasm) Critic brought theses views to the front stage. I (personally) feel sorry for the critic who wrote this article , as he apperantly has no life whatsoever, and always looks at life with a pessimistic viewpoint, not letting himself see how life itself is meant to be enjoyed, and there is only a limited in life to do it.

I'm not a die-hard Harry Potter fan, but I do enjoy the books (to read occasionally) when there is nothing else to read at home.

My advice to the reviewer : Stop reading between the lines and melding it into whatever sick ideas you make of it. Get a life .......

Edited by - Neo_Kuja on 6/6/2004 1:45:43 AM

I do believe that James, the guy that wrote the article, meant it sarcastically. However, I must confer that I agree with you. I know these guys. They are a little lacking in the social department. Check out their website : www.serility.com
it will bring a new meaning into the definition of sadness. they're all anime freaks....

cookie I wasn't referring to the virus, I was talkin bout the thing your friend wrote, while maybe not correct in everything he says, HP has a much greater impact and influence on society than most ppl realise and it's not a good influence

neo, man you need to chill... do what hairy does... PFFFT.... Ahhhh.... thats good wizard.

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Indeed. The article is clearly tongue-in-cheek, and is not bad actually. One other thing that I should mention is that there are a number of references in the texts that are not aimed at a child audience. There are puns, references to English society, and even satire, which you will notice if you look for them. HP is ok, but the trick is to remain apathetic; don't get involved in the hysteria .

sorry must rant
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But Its just a FRIGGIN story. Gonna burn em next? jeez lighten up it is just as popular to bash harry potter than it is to like em. So dont think y'all are on some literary or moral high horse because YOU or group of YOU's dont like em. Your just as trendy as we who love the books.* end

People died for your freedoms so you can sit and whine years later about how they didn't do anything for you. BAH! what a bunch of insolent selfish puppies.
Extremely Irate of Those who are ignorant.

Your right sw, he, potter, is not a good influince or role model. But folks will argue it to death. I put him in the sam catigory(sp) as beivus and butthead on mtv. The good models are hard to find.