"Outrageous"

Try NCEA, it's being intoduced here and it's the most vague piece of crap the education board has put into practice.

thank god i no longer go to school

Poor sw, try no to worry about things you can't change, it's a waste of energy. Anyway I'm sure your going to kick arse in both the year mark and the exam mark, no matter which way they grade it.

Yeah.. the world's education system has really gone down hill in recent years.
11+ banned in UK (there is now NO way to stop someone from going to whatever school they want to, which is horrendously unfair to the intelligent people, as well as idiots, because the idiots will hold the class back, which is bad for the intelligent people, and then the idiots get stuck because the works too hard for them. So you basically wind up with underworked smart people who can't realise their potential, as well as stupid people getting upset when the work is too hard for them. OK. I've just realised that this probably the longest anyone has ever wrote in brackets. Cool, eh? And it's getting longer with every sentence I write! Ah, god bless the English language. Well, guess I'd better stop now...)
Anyways, THEN I heard that in America the great *coughs uncontrollably* George Bush is trying to BAN grammar schools altogether!
Anyways, the source of your problem is simple government incompetence, and should resolve itself if you take action, ie. complain, petitions etc. to your Educational Authority.

Mustang most of the subjects thats the case ya, but in math if they move it down I could fail it
Thats a huge prob since I want to do programming after school and you need math at some of the colleges to do that
And if you want to go to any University you have to pass math

@freighter fighter

I'm glad too.

Ah yes NCEA, my school almost walked out and marched in the street in 2002 because of that. Good fun.

Homer: All right, pal: where'd you get the sugar for that tea?

Thief: I nicked it when you let your guard down for that split second, and I'd do it again.

Look, sw, can you change anything? No? Then save your nerves and health. I understand you're mad, but if there's nothing you can do, just relax, take a shot (it helps me), and enjoy the bit of life you still got.

An idea came to my head and is now desperately searching for brain

zlo, well, I'm not panicking bout it, its just extrmely frustrating the way they do it, I just cant understand how they can do such stupid stuff

This space is reserved for something, I just dont know what.
sycho_warrior The pic is less pinkish now
Forum Systems Chapter 7

You think thats bad? You wouldn't believe how much worse it gets for some.

How about the top 10% get an A - and regardless if 20% actually gained the marks for an A, only 10% are given one? It doesn't really happen does it?? You bet it does, and it has done, and will continue to do. It might not be those exact statistics - but its somewhere around that mark.

They also change marks depending upon overall performance, as it cannot be down to everyone doing well by working hard - just that the paper is too "easy".

Worse still, some teachers teach towards exam questions - literally giving the children the answers weeks before an exam so they get great marks (I kid you not), some allow them to redo course work in their own time/give extensions....


Ohh - what else goes on....

A random sample for each grade is taken, and those students have to answer a few questions to garner whether they deserve a mark....if they don't do well, a whole grade range could be "lowered". Some samples are sent away (this does still go on) and get marked. If there is a discrepancy between what the teacher marked and the examiner, then all the marks go down corresponding to this....but it really could just be a slight lapse of concentration by the teacher whilst marking that pupils score....or favoritsim (happens)

At uni - they give you a 'viva' - if you are just 1 mark from the next grade (there are only around 8 marks at some points between your degree classes (average of all marks), but the viva questions are so easy that you could do them without going to university.

At uni - your first year is not counting to your degree, only need to get a bare pass to be honest. Then - they weight your next two years unevenly, with a 2:1 ratio placed on your BEST years marks. This helps to boost grades yet again.

See - its not all good and fair really. It all is clouded by strange tactics and more.

There are alot more of these sorts of things, as techniques differ between exam boards (we have lots of them in this country) and some are easier than others - but its still the same mark in the end. Other things that are un-fair is that some go to uni after doing courses that are no more difficult than your GCSE's to get into the university. However, their points are worth the same as those for Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics (The accepted hardest subjects - in that order). Further maths is somewhere above Physics - but only slightly. Biology is the fourth (after maths).

Furthermore - the government is pushing the unis to take students from poorer backgrounds - which is fine if they get the grades, but when you lose your place to someone who gets worse grades than you, and all because the uni needs to fill government quotas - well, fair isn't the word huh?

Bottom line - life isn't fair - just do what you can

Edited by - Chips on 5/21/2004 4:49:42 AM

Chips that sounds awfully familiar we're getting there, not quite there yet, but we're on our way there fast, but on the other hand they want to take away exams with the new system coming in, now highscool will end in Gr9...get this, those that go on to gr10 cant even do the work properly, shows what junk they are busy teaching the kids nowadays

@Chips- I think it's more a case of noone getting near A marks and the government having to give the top 10% As to cover up how they've failed to teach them properly.

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hmmm... I'm doing Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Chemistry A-levels.
Physics really isn't too bad as long as you memorise the equations.
To be honest you really can't rate which A-levels are the hardest objectively. I find Chemistry to be a very difficult subject but I know people who find it easy and then struggle on Physics.
In my personal opinion, Further Maths is probably the hardest, followed by Chem, then Physics, then Maths. From what I understand Biology is hardly any walk in the park either, the prospective med students at school complain about it far more than Chemistry.

Actually - Corsair could easily have hit a nail on the head