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92 Years and One Week After the Maiden Voyage of Titanic

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Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:37 am

92 Years and One Week After the Maiden Voyage of Titanic

The Queen Mary 2 has arrived in Gotham. It arrived practically on-time despite two full days of 64mph galeforce winds and storms on its maiden crossing of the North Atlantic along the same Great Circle route taken by Titanic.

I was wondering what all the heightened security about NYC for the past three days was all about. Police, state troopers, and out-of-town police were everwhere.

This is quite some ship. 21 stories high, 1132 feet long. Equipped with side thrusters and fully reversible side propulsion pods, this ship literally can maneuver without the assistance of tugboats in close quarters.

I'm waiting to see if she will be berthed near where I work so I can pop out and take a gawk during lunch time.

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:04 am

it certainly looks better than some of the other liners being produced these days;they look like a block of flats that have fallen on thier side
the new queen at least looks like a ship

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:02 am

be good to have a look; can you see the docks from 6th?

these things are just floating hotels, i agree with Geoff they look horrible, like holiday homes in Torremolinos stuck on a hull. The old liners had a grace and beauty all their own which the modern stuff just doesnt capture, the lines now are too broken and top-heavy, the old liners were proportioned better. Never liked the QE2 though.

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:10 am

I can see one berth from my office. It usually has a Princess Line ship so I guess I am out of luck. I think Cunard has its own berth lower down and another highrise building is smack dab in front of me for those berths.

The older cruise ships looked like ships, I agree. The drawings of the QM2 made her look less like the modern stacked slab boxes with a pointy bow and airfoils added to try to cut down on the wind resistance a little.

She's here until Sunday so I might try to make it into a little outing for the munchkin.

FROM THE NY TIMES:
A Queen Glides Into New York to End Her Maiden Voyage

By JAMES BARRON

Published: April 22, 2004

The world's longest ocean liner sailed under one of the world's longest suspension bridges and beside one of the world's most famous statues this morning, before docking in New York City for the first time.

The ship, the 1,132-foot-long Queen Mary 2, swept under the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge as the sun was coming up on a hazy harbor. The ship, carrying 2,600 passengers and 1,200 crew members, soon glided by the Statue of Liberty, led by tugboats, police vessels and Coast Guard boats, all dwarfed by the black-and-white leviathan.

"It's almost floating in the air," said Adina Rafeld, who watched as the Queen Mary 2 passed the waterfront park just north of the Verrazano, in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn.

The passage through New York Harbor brought a smooth ending to a six-day maiden cruise from England that began with rough seas. It was also slowed by gale-force winds and waves that splashed high on a ship that is taller, wider and longer than any other passenger vessel in history. But the $800 million Queen Mary 2 made up the time it had lost, and today turned into its pier at the Passenger Ship Terminal on the West Side of Manhattan on schedule after all.

The ship's arrival had steamship buffs longing for the days when crossing the Atlantic took days, not hours, and when the ships were as stylish as the passengers. But to New Yorkers who watched the Queen Mary 2 ambling toward its berth today — its speed for most of the way through the harbor was a fraction of its 30-knot maximum (34.5 m.p.h. to landlubbers) — the ship was so out of proportion with everyday reality that it defied the brain's perspective-calculation system.

The Queen Mary 2 has 17 decks and measures 236 feet from keel to funnel. That would be tall anywhere, but in New York harbor, it is about as close to the maximum as can be. If the Queen Mary 2 were to sail under the Verrazano at high tide, the clearance would be only 13 feet.

New York has been buzzing with numbers like those all week. And, as the Queen Mary 2 steamed by, some shipwatchers wondered if it would make it into the harbor without scraping the 4,260-foot-long main span of the Verrazano, while others remembered watching what appeared to be tight fits in the past.

On one aircraft carrier, said Tom Garbie, a former cruise-line passenger greeter who now lives in Brooklyn, "they had to lower some of the antennas."

But the Queen Mary 2 had room to spare, crew members on the bridge said proudly. From their perch in a nearly soundproof room with thick plate-glass windows, they steered the ship through some of the nation's busiest shipping lanes. When they blew the ship's horn, as they did when the Queen Mary 2 passed the site of the World Trade Center, the carpeted floor shook.

They looked to the stern, sticking more than 100 feet beyond the pier in the Hudson River, where police boats were on patrol. Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly said on Tuesday that the police were planning a number of special security measures for the ship's arrival, not because of any specific threat but because of all the attention the vessel was getting.

As seamen tied up the ship at the terminal, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and city officials welcomed the Queen Mary 2 during a brief ceremony. "Pretty magnificent, huh?" the mayor said as a band played in the background. He said that he was looking forward to a tour of the ship this weekend "from stem to stern."

"I want to look in every little cupboard and make sure it's all shipshape," he said.

Turning to the Queen Mary 2's captain, Commodore Peter W. Warwick, the mayor said that if the ship were turned on its end, it would be the second-tallest structure on the New York skyline (taller than the Chrysler Building but shorter than the Empire State Building).

"But, Commodore," the mayor said, "we don't ask you to do that maneuver. Please keep it right the way it is."

The mayor joked that he had worried that the captain would call from under the Verrazano "and ask us to raise the bridge a little bit."

"But fortunately you managed to sweep through," the mayor said, "and that was just one of those sights that you'll see in the picture books, 10, 20, 30 years from now. People will look back and say, `You remember that wonderful day?' — the beginning of a colorful tradition."

The Queen Mary 2 is to leave New York on Sunday, sailing back to England with the Queen Elizabeth 2, which will arrive that morning. Maritime types say that will be the first time that two Cunarders have crossed the Atlantic in tandem, rather than passing each other in midocean.

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:55 pm

Yeah, I was in school playing softball (we won from behind 4-3!)when the QM2 went by. I heard on the news that it just barely fit under the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. The gap was about 10 feet. Where my school is, we can look down 17th Street and see the Hudson River.

Dark Helmet: How many A**holes we got on this ship anyhow?
Almost all of crew: YO!
Dark Helmet: I knew it! I'm surrounded by A**holes! (Lowers visor and in Darth Vader tone of voice) KEEP FIRING, A**HOLES!!!

Kingdom of Loathing

Edited by - cowami on 4/22/2004 2:59:33 PM

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:19 pm

Hey, when it manouveres - see if you can get a capture of it with a webcam - or digital pic or sommat - would be cool to see it to scale in a dock etc. Its dimensions are immense - and the displacement is something else......




For me, i prefer the older ships - wooden vessels, and not metal ones. I know back in the day they were places of squallor compared to the liners we have nowadays/last centuary (sounds strange), and that they were ALOT smaller, but I harbour a DEEP desire to go sailing across the ocean on a tall ship.....

Damned thing is that i have a fear of heights, so climbing the rigging would be, well, not happening!

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:20 pm

Here you go:

QM2

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:40 pm

There's some images here.

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:07 pm

The Queen Mary 2 was in Adelaide not less than 6 months ago, wish I went down to see it. Couple of my mates said it was unbelievably huge.

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:12 pm

Indeed, it's bloody big; in fact it seems a bit overdone to me. Titantic II, anyone?

Post Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:23 pm

anyone else think it looks like a very big Sealink ferry?

Post Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:49 am

lol. that is one weird looking ship! It looks almost CGI..! I would slag it off more, but I'm going on a week's cruise on my honeymoon, and I can't wait.

Post Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:53 am

I thort you were going to Vegas? not much sea in Nevada..

Post Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:19 am

I'm at Uni in Southampton and before it set off for NY it was berthed next to the Oceanography center so I could see it from the windows where I had a tutorial. It's a HUGE ship. You don't realise how big until another 'large' vessel draws near and is completely dwarfed

My gap year in Borneo

Post Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:34 am

but it doesn't have any markable features.. like titanic had 4 huge chimneys

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