your school computer probably has a nice insulating layer of dust on its heatsink

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graphics card, it freezes up alot, what would you reccomend for a real hardcore gamer

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I suggest you get an NVidia Geforce FX 5900 for stupid amounts of power... on second thoughts, get something a little less hardcore - I bought an ultra powerful card only to find I couldn't use it properly because my computer was too slow

As for out of date computers in general - anything you own is out of date and that's final. School computers were made in the dark ages and are slower than the combined stupidity of the entire planet.


I'm not evil, just morally challenged

Edited by - The Evil Thing on 3/30/2004 11:09:53 AM

If you're going to be upgradling your system in the next 18 to 24 months, don't spend too much on a graphics card. Get a lower to middle of the line ATI or NVidia card. Next generation video cards are due out soon but you may need a new mobo for them, not sure (new slot seems likely).

If you're keeping your PC for at least two years, you may want to get the top line AGP card available. The uhber techies on TLR currently prefer the ATI cards.

*Sigh* How many times do I have to go over the same ground? Taw, Mustang, and I keep suggesting graphics cards, and yet people keep asking. Although I like the sound of my own voice (), repeating myself over and over is really tiring me out, and I didn't sleep well last night. I'm not goin' over it again, so check AoD's threads on computers and graphics cards; they have all the information you should need as nothing new has been released.

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This system would be considered 'out of date'

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It would?!?! Whack another 256Mb of RAM in that sucker and you should get another 1 -2 years out of it. Hell, I was running a P3 800 up until 6 months ago.

actually Eskie I don't know what spec system you've got? maybe you did say but I must've forgotten.. cognitive degeneration you see

Do you mean you don't know my PC specs, Taw? Do you really want to know?

I've got an AMD Duron 1.3Ghz machine with 256 megs of sdram, a 60 gig harddrive, an ATI Radeon 9200SE 128mb AGP video card, and a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer. I'm also running Windows '98. This machine is plenty powerful enough to play some of this year's up and coming games such as Doom 3 and Half-life 2. Well, according to the developers anyway. I plan on upgrading my CPU and memory and Motherboard in the next 6 months, though.

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb!"

You expect to play Doom 3 and HL2 on a 1.3GHz machine and a 9200SE?!? *Evil laugh* Good luck! Seriously, you will be lucky to be pulling 30 FPS on 1024x768 with low detail levels. At least, that is my prediction. We'll see.

Taw - My specs are listed in the "Computer Systems" thread. If you are too lazy to look it up (most likely) I'll repost it at your request me old Scouser chum .

I don't like playing games in 800x600, and prefer 1600x1200, but in order to do that I have to turn off all the details. So I complain to my dad that we need a faster video card (currently in possession of a GeForce 4).

I should start complaining that we need a totally new computer; maybe it'll work and me and my sister can play games over LAN together.

@Esquilax: You'd be surprised at what my machine is able to play. Besides, I don't play games at resolutions of 800X600 or above if I can avoid it. Some games, like Jedi Outcast, I DO play at 1024x768. Max Payne 2 I can play at that resolution. Knights of the Old Republic, I can play at that resolution. SMOOTHLY. KOTOR is a very resource-heavy game, since it wasn't properly optimized for the PC. And I play it with maximum detail. In fact, in some cases, my performance actually increased with more detail. The only thing I worry about right now is memory. 256meg isn't gonna cut it for me anymore. I'm thinking about going up to 768 megs of DDR PC2100 ram, since that's what my motherboard also supports. When it comes to games, graphics aren't all that important to me as long as the gameplay is up to snuff. Besides, that 9200SE is a hell of a lot better than that Geforce2MX400 I was hauling in my computer a few months ago. I'm a gamer on a TIGHT budget here, so I take what I can get.

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb!"

I'm extremely lazy and I just can't face that wearisome trawl through the search function. Do it for me will you, Esq, oh and make us a brew as well and massage me feet. Just nip up to the shop for a paper for me too, I'm a bit tired after all this typing

Frickin lazy Staffordshirians, I was just about to send you that signed photo of myself too but i've changed my mind now.

Here's Eskie's beast of burden.

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CPU - P4 2.4 533MHZ FSB I didn't know about the 800MHZ FSB
MB - ASUS P4S8X Long story
RAM - 768 Kingston + Samsung DDR2700 Don't ask. Really.
HDD - 40GB WD 7200 RPM + 2MB Cache I don't need anything larger
CD-RW - Samsung 252B 52x24x52 Cheap and sturdy
CR-ROM - Asus 52x Not much to say here
Case - Generic Midi-Tower with 400W PS I know, I know
Sound Card - Creative SBLive! It does the job
Speakers - 2 Yorkville Passive Reference Speakers and a Pioneer Amp LOVE that deep bass!
Monitor - 19" Phillips 109B Made sense at the time
Video Card - Sapphire Radeon 9700 Overclocked from 275/270 to 340/310 Perfectly stable with stock cooling!

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Edited by - Mustang on 3/31/2004 4:30:40 AM

oh THAT signed photo, the one i won fair and square and you cheated me out of? Don't worry i got a picture of Samwise Gamgee and just coloured his hair dark, looks just like you anyway

And FF gave me 6 points as compared to your 1, which was very generous of him, thus making up for your uncaring beastliness <sniff> so there