There is only one thing to do in a situation like this, bite your lip and take your lumps. If you can't take it, your a whimp, plain and simple. Without going into details, I've managed to get myself through some pretty difficult situations, more difficult than that scenario and i'd like to think I'm a better person for it.

Edited by - Mustang on 3/24/2004 2:26:20 AM

well that sort of depends on what it is and how much I want it. If it's a fact that I could truly NEVER have it, no matter what, then it would be pointless to waste any time and effort longing for it. However, should there be a chance no matter how slim, but still a chance, then no matter what the obstacles I'd prob try to achieve it, or I'd give it a bloody good effort even if I failed. If I wanted it enough.

You also have to weigh up what the price of such desire is; what would have to be given up to obtain this "thing" of such unparalleled desire, because nothing is achieved without some cost or effort, and would the gains be worth the cost?

There have been many occasions in the past where I gave up virtually everything to have something I really wanted (usually a woman) and similarly times when I decided to pass up great opportunities because the risk of losing everything else was too much, and I'd been burnt before. As you get older, the latter view becomes prevalent.

(why do I get the feeling that this question revolves around a girl?! )

mustang hit the nail on the head, albeit a little bluntly . If its absolutely not possible to have this "thing" then you have to roll with the punches. Thats life. Tough ****. Move on. But talking from experience, there is absolutely nothing (apart from maybe breath) in this life that is worth getting THAT depressed about. You only get one chance...use it properly. Warlord Bob should have taught you that.

And as a final note...I don't believe in impossibilities....you make your own path in this life. Get on with it.

if its gauranteed theres no way you'll ever get it, then whats the point in killing yourself over it? just say "meh..." and move on

Kyp

The other day, in study hall, i farted really loud, you know...so the guys would laugh...and i swear it was so hanus that Susie Johnson almost ralphed up her salsbury steak.
it was freakin sweet...

There are a few who absolutely are unable to let go. These types ordinarily fall into the obsessed couch candidate category. Those who are really really advanced in their obsession may be beyond help and fall into the socio-psychopath category, future lifetime inductees of our prison systems or criminal mental hospitals.

I am hoping, Fish, that you aren't either of these.

If its something you can not have and you know you can not have, then you must resign yourself to that fact and move on. Dwelling on it will only eat at you. Had to do this before too.

Michael "Finalday"
In Memory Of WLB

If you know there's something that can't have, EVER, it's probably not worth having. Not if it's gonna eat you up inside. There's nothing in this world that I want that badly. Would I like to have 50 million bucks? Absolutely. Am I going to get it? Not anytime soon. Do I obsess about it? Hell no. It's a dream, that's all it is. I know too many people who obsess about things they can't get. I know, I used to be one of them.

The only thing like that I could think of would be immortality.
Unfortunately, that'll never happen (although, just to make sure, I've converted to just about every religion on the planet).
How do I get over it? I don't. I'm forced to ignore it, and try my best to make use of the years I have.

Since you people are so subtly directing your statements and opinions to me, I will dispell any notion of me being seen as weak. It is in fact a friend of mine, you might even say a counterpart, and I was looking at a quick short-term solution at least to try and halt this madness that seems to have gripped him. When I said NEVER EVER, I was adding some dramatic flair I admit. It would be possible but there are several factors in his way but going past those factors means ruining his life and everything he has worked so hard to achieve, so it's sort of a lose-lose situation here. Once again, I am looking for a little advice to snap him out of it and no he's not showing any suicidal signs since suicide would mean he would destroy the slim possibility of having it, or so it seems to me.

Meh how did you know it's never ever. Never is a long long time ooo =0 History tells us that the honor goes to the faithful So in another word there's value in perseverance against overwhelming odds.

If you give up you'll never know. If you perservere to the very end, at least you'll know. Besides coming to think about it won't it make you a whimp to quit before you find out for yourself?

The world is full of dreamers:

Walt Disney built his empire, but he never saw it bloomed, yet who's to say, I think he saw it way before anyone else ever did.

Abraham Lincoln. That dude knows how to persevere. Lost election, got back on, lost again, got back on again and again and again...

Michael Dell was laughed at, scorned for his ideas... Now guess who top the PC sales chart And they once told him he'd never pull it off.

So many many more, though I'm afaik I'm not as well read as I'd like to be.

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Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

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Heroes don't quit, their dreams live on long after they were gone.

Edited by - Visconti on 3/24/2004 3:00:02 PM

(I think Grom's right, It has to do with a girl.)

Okay, just take your mind off of her - no, I mean it - and then see if you really want her, err, it. Many things seem nice, but you may realize that you don't really want it as much as you think. Do you ever listen to Counting Crows? Their Big Yellow Taxi song hots on something close to this, you don't know what you got till it's gone. In this case you don't really know that you want it until you have it. You'll find that life will go on if you want it to, but suicide is not the answer. I have two words that have solved most of my problems and may solve yours: Rock Music . It works.

In the case that this is a girl (Which I think it is), just hold off and become her closest friend. May seem strange, but it will increase your, err, chances. Trust me, It worked for me.

what i do........actually.....i dont know

*i removed the chain letter from my sig*

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no he's not showing any suicidal signs since suicide would mean he would destroy the slim possibility of having it, or so it seems to me.

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If its a girl, he needs some help since having or loseing a girl friend is not worth thinking about suicide. So the girl friend part may be out.

Is it home or school related?

Michael "Finalday"
In Memory Of WLB

@Fish

Any more specifics you can give us? Seems like the only advice that can be given is on speculation or in very vague generalities.