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Evidence of Briny Surface Water Indicated by Latest Opportun

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Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:17 pm

Evidence of Briny Surface Water Indicated by Latest Opportun

It would be too optimistic, I think, to assume that a salt water sea was on Mars based upon what Opportunity has discovered. But it does appear possible that Opportunity has stumbled upon evidence of at least a body of salty water.

From the Associated Press:

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: March 23, 2004

Filed at 2:04 p.m. ET

PASADENA, Calif. (AP) -- Mars once had a briny pool of standing water on its surface that could have supported life in the now-frozen planet's distant past, NASA scientists said Tuesday.

Scientists announced earlier this month that the Opportunity rover found evidence of water long ago on Mars, but it was unclear whether the water was underground or on the surface. The new findings suggest there was a pool of saltwater at least two inches deep.

A rocky outcropping examined by the rover had ripple patterns and concentrations of salt -- considered telltale signs that the rock formed in standing water.

The findings add to the growing body of evidence that the Red Planet was once was a warmer and wetter place that may have been conducive to life.

``We think Opportunity is now parked on what was once the shoreline of a salty sea on Mars,'' said Cornell University astronomer Steve Squyres, the mission's main scientist.

Although Squyres referred to the water as a sea, scientists said it was not clear how big the body of water might have been or whether it was a permanent fixture. Instead, the site could have been a desert basin or salt flat that periodically flooded with water.

The evidence also does not indicate when water covered the broad and flat region where Opportunity landed, called Meridiani Planum, or for how long. Nor does it indicate if any organisms actually lived on Mars.

Edited by - Indy11 on 3/23/2004 12:18:06 PM

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:49 pm

Some scientist stuck some taffy on the sensor, that's all.

But really, how is this gonna help us on Earth? There has to be a reason that there's no more water or life on Mars, better leave it that way.

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:01 pm

Yes, I read that a little while ago. It seems as if they are actually making some progress. This is a good thing, specially considering all of the money that they invested in this mission.

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:20 pm

i think mars serves as a warning as to what might happen if we continue abusing this planet

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Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:25 pm

Well, then where are the massive industrial builings?

Oh well, who cares about mars, the women are from Venus so that's where you wanna go

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Edit: Damn spelling.

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Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:27 pm

does this idea bring to mind something familiar? I was thinking of the depictions of Mars in "Out of the Silent Planet"

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:55 pm

It would stand to reason, however, i read somewhere that Mars might have had an atmosphere, but due to the lack of size, and therefore the lack of strength of its magnetic field, the atmosphere was stripped away by cosmic radiation from the sun. This gradually peeled away the atmosphere, taking with it anything like watervapour etc, which would have made temps plumet, and more.

Earth has a significantly larger magnetic field, which means it deflects the cosmic radiation.

I think scientists always knew that Mars once had water on its surface, after all, it has ice caps..........its just that they are searching to see if it once sustained life in primitive forms or not. This might give more clues to evolution than previously, because it might render info upon how long it took for lifeforms to grow etc, as well as if they would have been similarly made up (carbon/nitrogen/oxygen etc perhaps?) and more information into our own "evolution" - as it would offer a very early "snapshot" into the origins of life (possible remains of prehistoric stuff)

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:56 pm

Here's a good one, NASA may have spotted a UFO speeding through the Martian skies! I'm very excited . It's probably just a meteor fragment.

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:34 pm

whatever happened about the 'face' and 'pyramids' on mars?

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Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:36 pm

They're still there if that's what you mean ff. What are you asking exactly?

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:38 pm

has anything more been done to see what they are?

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Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:41 pm

Haven't you ever seen the movie Mission to Mars ? They pretty much explain all that jazzy stuff in that movie.

I watched that in a hotel room in Toronto. That was fun

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:19 pm

I don't know about the pyramids, but the face was debunked years ago. It was just a bunch of shadows playing tricks.

Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:28 pm

i found a newspaper that said there were mutated cats on mars

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Post Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:06 pm

well, a couple of things.

the picture of the so called "Face" that was seen on mars was taken back by one of the first orbiters, and back then the resolution of the cameras wasn't that great, so it came out looking like it did. new pictures have revealed it to be....a big pile of rocks...

water likely exists (or existed) on Mars as ice under the surface, and it's been proposed that a lot of the evidence of water they now see on Mars (stream channels, etc) were formed after metorite impacts melted these underground glaciers and the water came to the surface and started running before it boiled away in the thin atmosphere

Chips, you're right in saying that Mars' lack of atmosphere has a lot to do with its lack of magnetic field, but... it doesn't have a weak magnetic field because its small, but rather because it's core is probably not iron-nickle like Earth's, but rather something closer to pyrite, which is a poor conductor of electricity and thus can't generate a strong magnetic field.
Magnetic field strength also depends on how fast the planet is rotating on its axis. Mars's day isn't that much different' from Earth's, so if its spinning at the same speed, then it's core must be non-conductive.

the atmosphere may have indeed been thicker way back in the day though, back when the planet was still producing a lot of new gasses through volcanic activity. if that's the case, water could have existed for a much longer period of time before boiling away. these findings could turn out to be very interesting yet...

Kyp

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it was freakin sweet...

Edited by - kyp durron on 3/23/2004 9:07:11 PM

Edited by - kyp durron on 3/23/2004 9:07:51 PM

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