im guessing ure not 15 then


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What rating system are you talking about?

AoE1 is 13+? then why does it have a learning campaign suitable for ages 4 and upwards?


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Perhaps it's for the obscenities! I could swear I've heard a few... or was that on just on halo?

Hmmm. Ratings here are by alphabet.

Both FL and AOE2 are rated "T" = teen violence. Minimum recommended age is 13. No graphic depictions of guts or gore.

Could not find a rating for AOE1.

I don't see FL being listed at other than a "T". Don't know why anyone would rate FL higher than a 13.

I just ignore the rateings...not useful to me.

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game ratings i think should be observed. when kids go into a school and shoot people up or shoot at passing traffic and the parents blame gta3, you wanna ask why 14 year olds were allowed to play an 18 rated game?
maybe if parents spent more time parenting instead of hoping that all computer games are educational bunny-fests like they remembered we wouldnt get kids going into schools with ak-47s thinking theyre in a game of counterstrike


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ra2 is a good game. so is FL.. FL is a tad better than ra2 but both can improve drastically (whats with the empty planets..) but i don't really go into rating systems since they're from voters with different tastes. i tend to go for opinion-orientated places.. like TLR!!! best place to get FL reviews.

@ Arcon.

I wonder if you can really make such a direct connection. The reason why I ask is that the same parents who would be so lackadaisical as to allow an underaged child to purchase or experience something that is meant for adults may be doing other things that would cause kids to erupt in schools and take lives.

While I also am tempted to make the same kind of a connection, a ten year old being able to play GTAIII at home may be more of a symptom than the cause.

An interesting question to ask would be where the kid gets his AK-47 to shoot up his school. (Unless it's in America where owning a gun is called self defense)

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@Indy: sure, i'm not saying this is reason and i'm totally with you that this could be a sympton of the problem. The neglect of a childs upbringing, the way that partents have little or no knowledge of what their kids are playing and the parental attitude that all games are suitable for all ages and that age ratings dont concern them is probably a massive red-flag for any child protection agency. I totally agree that behavior like 10 year olds playing 18 rated games is probbably the visible sign of the problem and i suppose the real cure for that would be education of the parents, but i think on behalf of the games company themselves, sticking age ratings on games is really the most they can do.
Like i said before, i am 100% behind age ratings, it gives the parents an idea of what their kids are gonna be buying and an idea of how old the customer should be in a games shop. The clerk at a store should equally be on the look out for underagers buying games but at present its not illegal for an underage child to buy an 18 game so they have no REAL power, at any least stores should make it their policy NOT to serve games to underage gamers, you might just be helping them in the long run


"it has to start somewhere, it has to start sometime, what better place than here, what better time than now"

@AceAZ

Well the gun situation here in the US is not as simple as people would make it out to be. But, as I recall, political discourse/flaming is not allowed on TLR and that's what talking about guns in the US will become. You make a point but others will say to the contrary and make a point as well.

@Arcon

I'm with you on the ratings.

Edited by - Indy11 on 29-10-2003 02:22:33