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Yellow sun... White light...

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Post Sat Aug 30, 2003 10:19 pm

Yellow sun... White light...

I was wondering why stars all give off White Light when they are yellow, blue, or red, etc.

I must have been absent during that lesson...

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Post Sat Aug 30, 2003 10:32 pm

depends on the wavelength

Post Sat Aug 30, 2003 11:58 pm

All stars give off all wavelengths of light, but yellow stars tend to give off more yellow light than other wavelengths, red stars more red light, etc etc etc. White light, of course, is made up of all colors, so since stars give off all wavelengths, they emit white light. In the case of yellow stars, what with their emitting more yellow than the other colors, that white light won't be pure white, but tinged yellow.

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 12:29 am

what about neutron stars then? and black dwarfs? or are they the same thing?

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 12:38 am

it has got nothing to do with wavelength but with temperature blue = hot and brown = cool

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:27 am

If they only give off white light, then how do we perceive their true color? After all, we see objects by the light they produce/reflect.

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:02 am

Neutron stars don't (as far as I know) emit visible light.

The stars do emit white light, but not only white light... white comes as a combination of all of the wavelengths, but the visible color of the star is due to it's primary wavelength, which is itself a function of the thermal energy of the star.

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:29 am

I remember from science class that if a star appears (from earth) to be blue, then it is moving closer to earth. If it appears red, than it is moving away. Or the other way around...

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:13 am

yeah but doesnt the ozone do some of that (i dont know, i do computers, not astronomy)

-arcon
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Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 5:11 am


I remember from science class that if a star appears (from earth) to be blue, then it is moving closer to earth. If it appears red, than it is moving away. Or the other way around...


that's galaxies dude, and most galaxies are red shifted, meaning they're moving away, which is the basis of the assumption that the universe is expanding

suns emit all manner of radiation, from xrays into the infrared, including all wavelengths of visible light. i know heat has something to do with what color we see the star to be, but other than that i can't really explain it.
sorry, i thought i could when i started this post...damn you Captain Morgan...

Kyp

The other day, in study hall, i farted really loud, you know...so the guys would laugh...and i swear it was so hanus that Susie Johnson almost ralphed up her salsbury steak.
it was freakin sweet...

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 8:29 am

ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! i feel like the stupid guy

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 12:40 pm

i don't do astronomy although i learnt star names and constellations for navigation. i did find out about this light business though in one of those guides to everything scientific, you know, fusion reactors for beginners and all that stuff (thats a lie i did already know this)

all "live" stars that is stars actively undergoing a nuclear process generate electro-magnetic (EM) radiation which distantly we percieve as light, or in the case of the sun heat too. obv. there a lot of other em radiations but lets concentrate on the subject in hand, besides most of the other wavelengths are too weak at stellar distance to be easily percieved, you need special kit to do that.

the part of the EM spectrum that manifests itself to us as visible light is known collectively as "white light" of course it isn't white at all. we see colour because of the absorption of certain wavelengths by the chemical composition of whatever we are looking at, which is then interpreted by our brains as "colour"

As colour is determined by chemical composition you can use this attribute to work out the composition of stars and other stuff using mass spectrometers. All stars work on the same principle but their chemical compositions can vary wildly hence we see different coloured stars, even though they all give off "white" light and everything else like IR, UV, gamma, x-ray, cosmic etc.

a stars composition depends upon the particular conditions of its origin and what elements went into it, what mass it is and how old it is. small white stars are usually younger and hotter, large red stars are usually older and cooler. this isn't always the case but it applies to "main sequence" stars which generally follow the same predictable cycles throughout their lives.

stars convert hydrogen to helium through fusion at high temperatures caused by gravity and pressure. As the star uses up its hydrogen it will eventually start to burn the helium, as this fuel is used up it is converted into other elements like carbon and iron. as the star changes its basic fuel it dramatically changes size and shape (the nova/supernova phenomena) but ultimately most stars end up a lump of dead ash with no nuclear activity, just a gravity well and a dense remnant of core. if the star was a large enough star this contraction wont cease at the core, the star will contract into a singularity with an event horizon i.e. black hole.

a star may have a doppler shift of red or blue depending upon its path and speed relative to us, but this is separate to its actual colouring due to its composition and temperature.

so in short, the wavelength of the light determines the colours we percieve, and the wavelength is determined by the composition of the star and its temperature.

addendum: the earth's atmosphere has some effect on the stars colour as far as observation goes in that atmosphere filters out higher wavelengths and therefore thats why the sun is redder at dawn and in the evening. it also causes the twinkle

Edited by - Tawakalna on 31-08-2003 13:44:03

Edited by - Tawakalna on 31-08-2003 13:45:49

Edited by - Tawakalna on 31-08-2003 16:53:34

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:35 pm

@Kyp, love that sig baby!!!!

-arcon
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Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:21 pm

@ Arcon, thanks dude

@Tawakalna, i couldn't have said it better myself...

Kyp

The other day, in study hall, i farted really loud, you know...so the guys would laugh...and i swear it was so hanus that Susie Johnson almost ralphed up her salsbury steak.
it was freakin sweet...

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:39 pm

i thought i'd help u out Kyp as you were on the right track but suffering from neural deprivation by alcohol. Rum does that to you!

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