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Post Sun Jun 08, 2003 2:36 pm

Maybe someone *looks at EB* "unclicked" it?


Careful what you wish... You might just get it.

Post Sun Jun 08, 2003 7:42 pm

Has anyone heard of a organization called IDSA?

Its where they protect against software piracy. If this gaming manufactures a member of the IDSA, then its officialy illigal to download their software even if the game is older then you.

Post Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:11 pm


There were court hearings that said that as long as the game wasn't produced anymore, its perfectly legal to download and host them. That site has been forced to take off some games: Daggerfall, and a few others and they complied. So, since the game isn't produced anymore, its fair game, and is considered sort of freeware. If it wasn't legal, then why would that site be around still?


you have thing on of that court hearing? newsartical, verdict, ect.

Post Mon Jun 09, 2003 3:27 am

No, i never "unclicked" this. Maybe you, Wiz, never even clicked it.

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 2:32 am

See, the thing is that if the game manufacturers want to, they tell them to remove the file, and its gone. There are several games that have a IDSA thingy on them that says: blahblahblah IDSA blahblah you can't download this file bahblah. And no, I don't have any specific articles, but I have one definition of a sort.

Abandonware is a generic term used to describe software (games) more than five years old, which are available to download, free, over the net.

It should not be confused with warez, which is highly illegal pirated software.

The legality of abandonware is, I believe, a somewhat ambiguous and .

. contentious area

I defy games manufacturers to tell me I should pay to play games like Bubble Bobble that I bought back in the late 80's, only for the blasted things to give up the ghost after a month, due to ridiculously poor carraige:- tapes/disks of the worst quality. Did we pay for the code or the disk?

If I bought the use of the code, I reserve the right to use it as many times as I see fit, and not let the physical casing of the product dictate whether or not I can exercise that priviledge.



Frankly, I don't see why rules applied to other copyrights should be applied, without any modification, to Computer software. A microwave brought out in 1990 might not be obsolete :-you cannot say the same for a game from 1990 - the techniques and technology used to create a game like Kick-Off 2 bear no resemblance to those used to create FIFA 2000.

There ya go.

Post Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:09 am

Almighty Cheese, please e-mail me with some links to legitament official websites that document any such laws that make abandonware legal, and I will unlock your Privateer thread if you so wish. Otherwise, the Privateer thread and any such future related threads will be locked as well.

Post Wed Jun 11, 2003 12:04 am

what about people who want to play the original elite? how would they be able to get there hands on a copy with out sites like underdogs?

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