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I would want to say sorry for my shameless plug I added but somebody wanted to know about it and I gave it to them.

Sorry did not mean to advertise like that. I'm not somebody that cares about differences in games some ppl are it seems. I love freelancer and I love the x games, why does it cuze so much friction between the fans of these games? I do not know but I like to be part of both worlds.

So once again I am sorry.

and here's the answer to the thread starters Q.

www.egosoft.com

Ahh, it's moved here. Trapper is right, Egosoft.com is da place.

I've read a little bit on X2 and I really don't see what the big deal is. Building factories sounds like a chore in micro-management and the visuals look below par. I hope it's a good game but im just not seeing the game that a lot of people claim will blow FL out of the water.

Can you land on planets and chat to people? I know it's a case of repetetive script syndrome in FL but I find chatting and reading the news a nice little break from flying.



I don't really run this place but I have an understanding with the people who do.

Well I bought XBTF and later XGold (which was xbtf + x-tension), patched it up to version 2.1a.

I'd heard it was the 'Elite' for the 21st Century.

It wasn't.

Great as it is, there's still ALOT of atmosphere missing (that's not a pun ), and to be honest, all the systems are more or less the same. Also, the way factories, refineries etc just seem to 'hang there' in space is rather disturbing.

As far as 'X-2 The Threat' goes, I'll be looking into it, but I hope it has sufficiently more scope than it's predecessor(s).

If you would like to check it out anyway, follow the link below.

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Lord Haart
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Ranked Elite Since 1985

After looking for about two months, I've FINALLY found a decent FAQ for this game. It's still not that detailed though. There is also a big preview that goes into the game in a bit more detail.

the problem is ANY space game is eventually gonna give the impression that one system is much like another. why? cuz space is black with twinkley bits.

doesnt matter how many stations of various designs, doesnt matter whether or not they orbit something or dont. sooner or later the player is gonna see that one system is much like another. the only differences are bound to be surface ones like background colors or does it look cool. in X sectors can begin to look alike, just various stations floating around. same in Iwar2, same from what I've played so far in FL. its just the way it is.

why?

cuz its a game. they can only do so much. heck even in Frontire Elite sure you coudl fly all over the galaxy but eventually one realizes that one randomly painted ball (planet) is just like another.

the question is what suspends the disbelief for the player?

that varies from player to player.
sometimes pretty colors are enough
sometimes lots of bad guys are enough
sometimes dynamic trading is enough
sometimes pirating opportunities, no matter how repetitive (iwar2) are enough.

heck, people think FL was overhyped. wait until/if ever Elite 4 is released, THAT'll probably be the most overhyped space sim game ever, and will probably end up disappointing a lot of people, just cuz everyone remembers some aspect of elite they thought was best and it may or may not be emphasized in the new one.

anyway, enjoy FL, X2, FS2, Iwar2, etc on their own terms

"I find chatting and reading the news a nice little break from flying."
You may find this interesting to know but there is a new bulletin board with news and missions... but currently only cut scenes take place on planets... so you will have something else to do other than flying : )

"Building factories sounds like a chore in micro-management "
Well you don't need to build them... And with the clever AI scripting you can fully automate pretty much everything if you want! so micro manage as much or as little as you want!

"the visuals look below par"
Err... Ok... Heres some more new screen shots:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ne ... p?id=88975

Edited by - x-pilot on 23-03-2003 14:05:08

Greyfish:
I agree 100% with your observations.
But right now I must say that Freelancer comes quite close to the perfect
game for me.
Of course there are already talks about patches and improvements. If that
happens I will be even happier. But let's all enjoy what has been given to us.


See you in the stars.

Well, whens this X-2: The Threat coming out? i would really like to buy it, build a empire of factories, battleships and fighters in space, sounds awesome, but im getting this gut feeling theres really no way this could be thrown in with multiplayer, so, i think im gonna keep a eye out for this and EvE because they both look like awesome games. Albeit, when World Of Warcraft comes out you guys wont be hearing from me for about a month

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