Coalition strike back angry cause they cant use our stuff

Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:50 am by reynen

OK I think needs to be brought to attention. This guys a loon and got very upset because we wont give him OUR stuff. Pretty sad that he gets mad because we won't give him our stuff. Look for yourself:

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Original email

Great and mighty Reynen, I come to you with a plea to the greatest of modders. i know of your bussiness, so I hope not to take too much of your time. Me and my team of modders have been working on a new expansion pack, and we humbly request your help. I ask with all due respect, that you send me the weapons and files used to make weapons appear on other ships, so that I can release the first beta of our expansion, Freelancer: The Coaliton strikes Back. Please accept our plea, i beg you. Credit will be given to Starfyre Studios.

On bended knee,
born to be wild

p.S. If you think my band isnt good, we also have kendo_THM helping.

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My Responce: 1

think I am bit confused. It sounds like you are asking me to give you our weapons and equipment from TNG. Considering I, Bobthedog and others created all the weapons and equipment for our expansion, I cannot do this as they would not be happy to see other people using the exact same stuff they created for TNG. Also that would just make your expansion just another copy of ours which we do not want and that would not do you any good.

If you want help on creating NEW weapons and equipment then I will help. To create new weapons and equipment for ships you need to change the following files.

Weapon_equip.ini
Weapon_good.ini
St_equip.ini
St_goods.ini
Misc_equip.ini
Misc_good.ini
Engine_equip.ini
Shiparch.ini
loadouts.ini
loadouts_special.ini

To add stuff to bases

Market_misc.ini

Sincerely,

Reynen

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His responce: 1

I know how to mod. I am NOT a newb. Thank you for your thouroughly unhelpful help.

Seems you are not who I thought you were,
Born To Be Wild

P.S. My mod will be so good, it will make you beg to have a peice of it. Oh, and your mod mysteriously seems to have all my ideas on YOUR to-do list. Waprp Drive, cloak, you name it, we already have it. DO NOT STEAL ANY MORE IDEAS FROM OUR FORUM. Or when I become a moderator, I will personally ban you.

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My Responce: 2

Excuse me???? WTH is wrong with you? You are mad because I won't give you our stuff? I think I'll post this on our forums AND on lancer so people can see what is going on.

You say our mod mysteriously has all your ideas? LOL Please show me a post showing where you stated your "said" ideas? TNG has been around even before you thought about your mod. You say you already have it?? Then you stole it from us when I distributed our files. Also since our files are protected, cracking them using them is a violation of the DMCA. You want to fight, fine, but WE will win. Also what forum are you talking about. I didn't even know you guys had a site and I am NOT even a registered member of your forums so I don't even know were you get off saying that crap.

We'll see what the public has to say about this.

Reynen

Reynen Starfyre
Project Leader: Starfyre Studios
Freelancer: The Next Generation

Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:20 pm by Kendo THM

Ok,

I allready told you that I have nothing really to do with this, AND I didn't J-O-I-N his team, i'm just helping him out abit

I'm your Helping Hand

Kendo_THM
X-Lancer Project Leader
TNG Public Liason

Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:52 pm by blaXXer

calm down guys...there'S no need to give a dogfight in the forums...
let's wait when both mods are released an then we make a poll where people can say which mod they think is better...OK?

have fun...

BTW: I'm looking forward to playing the TNG 2.0...

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"Just for a good shot - for what else?"

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Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:39 pm by blaXXer

I'm also curios if he uses my cloak-mod...*frowns*

Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:52 pm by FatTrent

this is somewhat funny

"Piloting a ship doesn't make you lose weight"
-Fat Trent

Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:07 pm by Kendo THM

Fat Trent, This isn't funny (sorry but it really isn't!!!!).

We at Starfyre have been getting more and more problems with these kind of Ideas!!

Its getting sorted out slowly. And Blaxxer, I think he is, but I'm not sure!!

I'm your Helping Hand

Kendo_THM
X-Lancer Project Leader
TNG Public Liason

Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:36 pm by X-a-V

he is crazy we will help suporting the TNG mod

with all tng servers

and Reynen keep on doing the great job

TNG mod rules

Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:53 pm by blaXXer

Its getting sorted out slowly. And Blaxxer, I think he is, but I'm not sure!!

I do not mean Reynen...I mean b2bw...just for you info...

Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:09 pm by Geekus Maximus

Cut the flare wars it will tarnish both of your rep's with others in the forum

Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:37 pm by Warlord Bob

I know little about modding but would it be possible for "them" to make thier mod so that it and TNG could be active at the same time? Like a second expansion pack?

We who are about to die salute you!

Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:39 am by Gregstar2k

Can't we all share and get along? The more cooperation between mod developers the more general progress in making GOOD, balanced mods. Reinventing the wheel a thousand times never helps anything, but that's what everyone seems to keep doing (especially on the editing forums!) hoarding mod resources is only going to hurt all parties involved.

Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:43 am by Warlord Bob

Ah, but than everybody who makes a wheel feels quite smart for a while

Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:55 am by reynen

This matter has been resolved. I've accepted the apology and things are now over and done with.

Greg2k:

SO you belive that once someone creates something then everyone else should be allowed to COPY from it and perhaps profit from someone elses hard work?

How would you feel if say you created the ultimate creation that took you years worth of work. Then you released it to the public and your next door neighbor uses your same ideas to create something almost exactly the same a week afterwards. You would not be happy.

Also once everything uses the SAME thing, what good is it? Its jsut another copy of the original. What would be the point of having 5 copies of TNG all with different names but do the exact same thing? Mods needs originality or there is no value in them. Tng is a sci-fi mod that incorperates much of teh sci-fi world, bab5, star wars, star trek, free space 2, etc...that is what makes it unique. It's a umbrella for all sci-fi things.

Reynen Starfyre
Project Leader: Starfyre Studios
Freelancer: The Next Generation

Edited by - Reynen on 02-09-2003 06:03:42

Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:19 pm by Gregstar2k

I get what your saying and fully understand it. I'm not saying have a million variations of TNG, or have it be cannibalized...but any simple innovations, new ideas or things nobody else figured out how to do, should be shared.
THATS what i meant.

If what he effectively wants to do is a variation of TNG, well yes of course you should say no...
i just feel that new "modding inventions" that TNG may have should be shared, with THE EXCEPTION of the cloaking device 2.0 allegedly will have

Personally...I think some of the ships in TNG are done so well they oughta be repackaged as standalone ships (like they used to be) and released as "TNG-type versions"

... the reason is because the original standalone ships released by their individual authors were completely unbalanced and generally had 10000 cargo space from the start. TNG ships are well balanced and would provide a more reasonable base for mod devs to start from.

i am totally sick and tired of seeing mods that give ships by default all level 10 guns and 200 cargo space and Drake/Patriot handling >:[ and TNGs ships dont do that necessarily

an example of overkill: Rebalance's battleship encounters and use of custom ships for AI got WAY out of control despite its strong points like some of the ships it had...

Reynen regarding our argument about those chasecams on TheCollective that day...plz DONT reduce the speed of the TNG ships they feel slow enough already...

Edited by - Gregstar2k on 03-09-2003 00:19:58

Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:54 pm by Kendo THM

The speed...hmmm...!!

I'm your Helping Hand

Kendo_THM
X-Lancer Project Leader
TNG Public Liason

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