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Death Penelty

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Post Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:31 am

Death Penelty

hay i was looking for help with something. i wanted to know how to make it so when a player dies not only is all their equipment destroyed but it doesn't return upon respawn. anyone here know how to do this?

Post Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:56 am

this cannot be done as far as i kno of, it would require a almost instance edit of thier player file, which, can corrupt rather easily

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Post Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:14 am

too bad about the respawn Glitch. You can thoroughly disable a ship by blowing off it's shield and weapons. Unfortunately, when the player dies and respawns..they get all that back minus the cargo and unmounted equipment they were carrying.

Post Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:35 am

death_penalty = 100 ; percentage of your cargo (commoditied and unmounted equipment) lost at death in MP
but as you can see its only about cargo and MP - not to mention that this is already at 100%

im not 100% sure about the following idea but to my knowledge fuses are able to "unmount" equipment (ive seen that long time ago)
so basically if its unmounted then its cargo.. and therefore can be lost as a penalty

Post Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:07 pm

I think this is the way you could do it...

In the shiparch.ini put this under each ship entry...
fuse = drop_cargo_fuse, 0.000000, 1

In the fuse.ini add this....
name = drop_cargo_fuse
lifetime = 0.0
death_fuse = true

at_t = 0.000000
hardpoint = HpWeapon01 <---- or whatever mount
fate = loot

at_t = 0.000000
hardpoint = HpWeapon02 <---- or whatever mount
fate = loot

at_t = 0.00000
origin_hardpoint = HpMount

at_t = 1.000000

I'd keep it limited to just weapons or shields. Removing a scanner/powerplant ect can cause bad things for the player.... oh yeah I'd think long and hard about serious death penalties, players tend to get pissed and lose their motivation to play if they lose they equipment they worked long and hard for. Such a move will probably cause you to seriously rework your economy and npc loot drops to accommodate such losses.

Having said that, I'd like to give thanks to Wasabe who showed the FL community how to do this. No I cant take credit for it :-D


Post Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:23 pm

but when you dock your ships status is saved, so when you dock, the server takes a shot of what you have equipped, this is what im worried about, altho, fuses may work, only one way to find out..... TEST!

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Edited by - Finalday on 6/29/2007 5:58:47 PM


Post Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:11 am

no luck, anyone got some other ideas?, or douse anyone know how to actually unmount a piece of equipment with a fuse? that might be worth checking out.

Post Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:48 am

You can lose a piece of mounted equipment because they have "hit points" and take damage. You don't really have to change anything in that aspect.
But, the minute a player is destroyed and "respawns" .. all the progress of knocking off the weapons and equipment is lost.

This might defeat the purpose of the game, but just make player ships practically invincible. This way, they don't die..but they'll lose their equipment & weapons in combat. Re-outfitting a ship with new equipment (and weapons) gets pretty expensive. Even sun diving or planet diving won't kill them..but give them enough damage to be pretty expensive to fix.


Post Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:11 pm

If you want additional death penalty, you could try FLShell.
This can "fine" players, when dying in pvp.

Post Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:56 am

That's one of the things about FLShell I really dislike.
That can drive new players away.
I've seen it being abused way too much on other mods by experienced players.


Post Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:13 am

.... that´s true.
Some players go 4 cheap kills to earn a little money with that.

And so we use FLShell, we don´t use that feature.

Post Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:46 pm

of course it would be possible to enable "no kill zones" so new players are protected but in the end everyone playing a game where other can kill you should expect to be killed

ok but in the end we are totally off topic now
there are death fuses already that let your cargo/loot drop
and this cargo does not re-appear when you spawn at a base
so either we get it working to turn mounted equipment to be cargo before the ship goes boom or we find out why cargo is handled different from equipment at a respawn

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