ban them, if they make new MP IDs keep banning them until they cant be bothered.

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Sorry if it sounds offensive but I think thats complete crap. There are way easier things in FL to cheat than using an "Aimbot" which in return does not really help you at all.
If the cheater is really such a noob you could just stay at distance to him and evade his shots while kicking his ass. If he evades your shots however, you should face the facts: He is likely not cheating but a good player.

In the end there is not really anything you could do from the server-side against such things like aimbots.

My 2 cents.

Ok guys thx for your replies, but these players are and were known as complete idiots who couldnt hit a conquerer if it bit them..

The fact i know what this Aim Bot does is Takes your crosshair and places it directly onto your target without you moving your mouse then all he/she has to do is fire and boom your dead, and its not easy trying to evade thier fire when they are using an AimBot..

Now alot of ppl who i fight daily never miss, and i know when under heavy lag it is impossible to hit anybody with a sniper setup, but these ppl manage it with ease..In fact its so easy for them to kill mostly everybody under heavy lag that made me turn to you guys for a explaination.

We have one guy who we baned 2 days ago for we think is using this aimbot for the above, and he will be let back on within 2 days, unless we can sort out how to get FLAC to learn about this hack...

Do you see the problem?

Thx

Const.

Edited by - Constantine<xeonica> on 12/26/2006 11:26:47 AM

You cannot really detect that kind of hacks without client-side anticheat software.

And to detect aimbots, you would first need a copy of the aimbot so you know how it works. And somehow I doubt there already exist Aimbots for Freelancer because of the reasons mentioned above

Edited by - w0dk4 on 12/26/2006 11:27:10 AM

So basicly we cant do anything from the server side, but could we issue a mod for our clients to download with a ANTI-cheat program installed in the mod?

Does anybody know where i might find the AimBot??


Const



Edited by - Constantine<xeonica> on 12/26/2006 11:32:15 AM

To hit you, they'd actually need an aimbot which aimed at the right part as you move..

It's more likely that they are just using exceedingly high speed projectiles on some guns - so it appears to "hit what you aim at" without any need for a lead.

However, you can still beat them. Just use a nice shield killer/missile loadout, on standard FL you can kill them on the first pass without any issue at all - even if they are in a tooled up titan

Chips m8, love your work btw, but Titans arnt an issue, if someone is using an aimbot, the FL file shouls read this (SetCrosshair_aim=0,0) if a none user of the Aimbot should be (Setcrosshair_Aim=0,1) now if they are even in a fast ship or with fast projectile guns they can still hit you without missing.

I have been a pvp'er for about 3 years, and killed alot, but never cam across someone who can still hit your ship while at 200 thruster speed and while your next to them heading in the opposite direction as them, its just impossible..

Trust me guys i know what im talking about when it comes to pvping, missile boat nah, if they fire a cd at you the your as good as dead, or if they use CM's then chances of your missiles or torps hitting them are less than 30%.

I have 5 chars on FL server and 1 of them is Hammer head, now i can take down a normal VHF easily without fuss, i also have a Conquerer and anubis and i can destroy most ppl in these ships, plz dont take this as boasting, but i can, even these people with the aimBot i cannot kill, as i said in heavy lag i cannot kill anyone, but these AimBot users find it so easy.

Its just as i said in earlier post's you dont even have to move your mouse, just watch and fire your guns no matter what the speeds are..

Const.

its is completely possible to do passes like that at high speed, 200 thruster is what you go at in normal PvP anyway, also, FL does have a sort of built in aim bot, you can be slightly off the cross hair and your fire will still go directly at them. ive been a PvP on Jolt freelancer server for 3 years now, and from what i can see here, its a couple of people that are very experienced and are very cocky about it.

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Aimbot could be made so it looks for the red lead - indicator and moves the mouse on top of it. This way there'd be no need to alter the contents of some of Freelancer's ini files. Just have the bot do a pattern search for a red +, give and take a few pixels for increased / decreased screen resolutions.

But - huge "but" I might add, how did they get past the mouse emulation block of Direct Input? As far as I understand it, this is not something easily bypassed.

What server are you playing on? I find this a rather fascinating topic and would like some first hand victim experiences battling such players. Care to share the names of those suspects?

Ok i cannot give any information about the server or the players as we do not have any evidence wether they are using it or not, that is why i made this post to see if anything can be done about it and so i and admins can learn something about it, if it is a cheat then its a cheat that all freelancer servers are up against.

Const



Edited by - Constantine<xeonica> on 12/26/2006 2:54:19 PM

It could be possible, they simply added the "seeking" effect of missiles to the guns. I have experimented with this in sp and have mixed opinions with it.

Wouldn't you then see the shots twist and turn as they home in on the moving target ship?

only if u had the same files i'm guessing

you might be able to nerf this cheat from server side by setting all guns to force_gun_ori = true (this disables snap-aiming for the weapon) - it will make it much harder to hit what you're aiming at of course...