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Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:34 am

Stealing mods

guys im new to this but i want to know about it so i just ask

imagine there is a clan and those guys played on an very successful server (the same server i joined 2 weeks ago) and now this clan announces on the forum of this server that they will steal the mod or the code of the mod which is running on this server to create their own mod

i mean they just take the work others have done and use that for their own mod without even asking the creators of this mod... now they say that the original mod will be forgotten soon and the server will be destroyed
yesterday i went to the clanpage of this clan and i had a look at their forum... and ive seen that they want to copy other mods too

I would call this stealing and the worst behaviour i have ever seen... if you ask me such guys should be banned from the whole freelancer community for such a crap
but in the end i want to know what you think about that ****

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:50 am

That is the ultimate crime, IMO, here on TLR. You should not EVER take other people's work without permission. Its kind of called COPYRIGHTS. And even if its not official, you automatically get intellectual copyright for your ideas. That clan needs to be brought down. What they are doing is wrong and is ruining the game.


FL:CE Mod Team Leader

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:55 am

Simply post who these guys are, what they stolen, proofs they did so, a link to their forums and whatever other info you wish, and they'll surely be blacklisted for thousands of years. As Black hole said, stealing is the worst thing ever possible to do. Their reputation, if you are telling the truth, will be messed forever.

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:20 am

i think the clan is called UberCrue
they use [UC as clantag

ill just quote some things they have said

I personally have made it my mission, IN LIFE, to make a new mod, a better mod, a bigger mod, and I have every intention of using whatever code or concepts/ideas I deem neccessary, to and include yours if I feel like it.

We have skinners better then yours, coders better then yours, map makers better then yours. Our mod WILL, in laments terms, KICK YOUR MODS ASS.

Your threats aren't really anything but, heresay. lol. You don't have jack **** to back your claims up with except your "good name" which I can buy on the street like a 2 dollar crack whore.

So if you want it, bring it. Don't sing it.

posted by [UCUber


i agree in terms that it is a great mod and u spent alot of time on it i can see but theres 1 thing u dont understand.... there is no copyright its a mod on a game that microsoft doesnt support anymore... therefore we will jank your **** if needed. But OUR mod may or may not have some crossfire coding in it either way when its done it will be released to the public serverside files and all.

posted by [UCCo3pTiS


LOL.

Resistance if futile. You will be assimilated.

We will "jank" your code and make it our own.

We are Uber Crue.
posted by [UCUber


I will give you ample credit for having made a very good mod for FL you have pulled alot of good ideas together but there are lines you have yet to cross. You have a PvP type system but where is the sport. No betting system no entry fees. Come on breathe some life into this. You can do it. OR YOU CAN WAIT AND PLAY UBERVERSE Alpha release Nov 2005
posted by [UCProximo420


there is much more... they insulted nearly the whole community of the server where i play and also said that lancersreactor is crap coz it would be offline 80% of the time
the admin of the server forum already banned them but they kept coming back
i dont know how he solved this problem now but it seems that it worked and they are gone for a while

oh before i forget it
they have said they would have their own server , i dont know if this will help

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:01 pm

Well, obviously these people are either very stupid, or they just want to get attention. One of those things.
Am i right?


P.S. Mabye my name means something after all...

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:36 pm

lol, unfortunatelly ye cant stop em...

M$ aint gonna ban people for stealing other peoples mods -- not that they can but all the same :p

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:12 pm

No one can ban anyone on the Global Players List, but TLR could ban their mods and anyone from UC, and there could be some kind of "embargo" where no one ever goes on their server. I think the FL Community is tight enough for that.

EDIT : And I even heard of some kind of Alliance/Group/confederation/whatever of Admins and ServerOps that sometimes gives full banning for some players, even if they never got on. If they ever try to publish their work, use their tag clan, or any username, they could get detected and banned.

If they want to play alone on their own server with only them, that's good for them. But they wont be part of the FL Community at all.

Edited by - FriendlyFire on 8/24/2005 3:15:25 PM

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:00 pm

I got a lot to say about this but will hold my temper back for now.
I can see it now...........people attacking their server, useing mods just to get it to crash, flaming them badly on their own forum..........or maybe microsoft will feel like bugging them. lool (Lets all hope and pray that happens.) ^^
But yea I would be mad and be ready to do some butt kicking.

Anyway we don't really know for a fact he can do this, he might be some 12 year old kid just wanting people to know he is in the world and can't even read a script code for his life. lol
But if he does do this lets hope he messes up bad or that riot of angery modders will kill him. lmao.

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:10 pm

Heh, a riot of angry modders is exactly what that sonofa***** is gonna get. I propose that these people and all their works be banned from TLR. I would personally like to give their mod leader a talking to, as would many of you. The preservation of ideas and their owners is one of the top prioties of the FL community. I myself have borrowed content from other mods, but i would never dream of using it without their explicit permission. These people aren't a mod team, they're a cult.

Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:14 pm

Ok folks, if you have a dispute, take it up with the people involved and/or the server. Don't bring the hostilities and flaming here, its not welcomed

If yu have a question about a mod posted here, as to "Ownership" then contacked Baked Patato as he posts the mods. His E-mail is [email protected] so let the matter dorp please, or I will have no choice but to lock this thread.

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Post Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:10 pm

"Question askers quickly puts out the fire."
O anyway I been looking in my scripts on my mod and I remember someone named argh here made one for me because I was very new at scripting and was lost and the thing I saw what he did was
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ARGH'sScript\\\\\\\\\and it is a good idea becuase it really helps keep your name on your work. So Now I am going to do this on my scripts and work.
Now Question time.
Ok can I do what I showed you in the weapons goods by my work of new weapons or my work of the engines with out messing up.
EX.
//////////////////////////////Question's works\\\\\\\\\\[engine
bah bah bah
cruise time bah
bah
Like have it right above system files.
Beucase this would be nice so if someone trys to take my work It would be a pain to remove the names.
So would the game still run fine?

Edited by - Question Asker2044 on 8/24/2005 10:12:01 PM

Post Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:37 am

no please dont close this thread... imo this is just to protect the fl community which is kept alive by those mod creators which really work with their own code and improve the game with their new features

i know those Uber guys... they really want to steal the code of other mods
from what i have seen they are new in FL after the other game communities have banned them
It cant be good for the FL community to let them do this unpunished... because if they really steal the mods of others (so far i know about 3 mods they want to use) then others might think they can do the same
and its very likely that the real mod creators here will be damn pissed that their work is going to be abused and some will stop coding those mods (well thats what i can imagine)
like i said... its not good for this community

every mod creator has the right that his/her work is protected and not stolen by others

Post Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:03 am

To me it sounds as if a few people didn't agree with the rules and or game play on that particular server.
It happens... You cant please everyone.
Thing of it is, the server operator has every right to set the policy on his or her server and if you have some suggestions on how to improve game play that's fine, submit the ideas. Server operators are great people or they wouldn't be spending their free time and money running a server in the first place.
A MOD such as Crossfire takes months to make so to those that say they are going to steal the ideas and code it will still take a long time to put it all together and people will notice it anyway. They will notice that the MOD is copied and will give you a bunch of unwanted comments. So I wouldn't worry about the few immature characters that are making these comments.
And as far as stealing ideas and code, you don't need to steal anything because all that information is right here on the "crap site Lancers Reactor that's offline 80% of the time".
I'd like to see them or anyone else run a site this big. There is over 30 gigs of data on this site not to mention the bandwidth usage and the connection speed Lancers Reactor has.
Good luck paying for a dedicate server...and good luck spending all your free time for a bunch of people that couldn't care less or appreciate your efforts.
We'll see how long they can hang in there and not get discourged.

And to sum it up they will have to start their own community because if they submit a MOD that I think is a copy without the permission of the people that made it I wont post it anyway or give them a news post about their MOD and or server and nobody will know it exists anyway, so all their hard work and time put in will be for nothing teaching them a much needed lesson in life...

Instead of complaining about Lancers being hung up all the time they should be offering to help fix the problems...but I don't see anyone doing that...

Post Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:24 pm

Good to know.

Post Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:29 pm

I'd like to offer to wax TLR's modem or database - mebbe it will go faster?

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