@Aravis

Are you sure that you have add the new faction to intialworld.ini, empathy.ini and faction_prop.ini ? Also in faction_prop.ini the NPC ships must be defined or linked to a existing party (like liberty rouges). In npcships.ini are the details for new ships and their loadouts.

Did the new faction show up in the rep menu ?

eisfuerst

It has to be linked ? it cant be brand new, out of the box, connected to nothing?


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@Aravis

Youd add a entry to faction_prop.ini like this:

[FactionProps<---closing brakcet!
affiliation = my_new_grp ;new group name
legality = unlawful
nickname_plurality = singular
msg_id_prefix = gcs_refer_faction_li_n ;not important
jump_preference = jumphole
npc_ship = gd_bh_bh_fighter_d1 ; that's the imnportant part...
npc_ship = gd_bh_bh_fighter_d2 ; here you define the ships used for different
npc_ship = gd_bh_bh_fighter_d3 ; diffcult levels
npc_ship = gd_bh_bh_fighter_d4
npc_ship = gd_bh_bh_fighter_d5
npc_ship = gd_bh_bh_fighter_d6
voice = pilot_f_mil_m01
voice = pilot_f_leg_f01
scan_for_cargo = commodity_alien_artifacts, 1
scan_for_cargo = commodity_cardamine, 2
scan_announce = false
scan_chance = 0.500000

the easiesr way would be to reference a existing party for your new faction. So you must not define new npcships and loadouts. First try to edit the faction_prop.ini and add something like the following:

npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_fighter_d1
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_fighter_d2
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_fighter_d3
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_fighter_d4
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_fighter_d5
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_fighter_d6
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_elite_d7
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_elite_d8
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_elite_d9
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_elite_d10
npc_ship = fc_lr_pi_elite_d11-19

This will definbe exact the same ships for your faction as the liberty rouges use.
If your encounter request a difficult level of 3, the following ships (npcships.ini= should be spawned:

[NPCShipArch
nickname = fc_lr_pi_fighter_d3 N the defined nickname
loadout = fc_lr_pi_fighter_loadout01 ; the loadout of the fighters /(oadout.ini)
level = d3 ; level requirement = 3
ship_archetype = pi_fighter ; pirate fighter ship
pilot = pilot_pirate_ace ; pilot qualification
state_graph = FIGHTER
npc_class = unlawful, class_fighter, d3 ; used for unlawful encounters, fighter class with difficult = 3

If this should work ... you could start defining custom ships and loutouts for your new faction.

eisfuerst

I know but its all setup they just wont show up in my encounters heres my inis.

Faction_prop.ini

[FactionProps
affiliation = si_mi_grp
legality = lawful
nickname_plurality = singular
msg_id_prefix = bizah
jump_preference = jumpgate
voice = pilot_f_mil_m01
voice = pilot_f_mil_m02
voice = pilot_f_leg_f01
voice = pilot_f_leg_f01a
npc_ship = si_mi_valk19
npc_ship = si_mi_drag19
npc_ship = si_mi_crus19
npc_ship = si_mi_defe19
mc_costume = mc_li
space_costume = li_captain_head, li_scrote_body, comm_ge_generic2
space_costume = li_rockford_head, li_scrote_body, comm_li_hatcher
space_costume = li_sales_head_hat, li_scrote_body, comm_ge_generic2
space_costume = ge_male4_head, li_scrote_body, comm_li_hatcher
space_costume = pl_male2_head, li_scrote_body, comm_ge_generic2
space_costume = ge_male3_head, li_scrote_body, comm_li_hatcher
space_costume = li_newscaster_head_gen_hat, li_hatcher_body, comm_ge_generic2_female
space_costume = li_newscaster_head_gen_hat, li_hatcher_body, comm_li_hatcher_female
space_costume = br_newscaster_head_gen_hat, li_hatcher_body, comm_ge_generic2_female
space_costume = br_newscaster_head_gen_hat, li_hatcher_body, comm_li_hatcher_female
space_costume = pl_female2_head, li_hatcher_body, comm_ge_generic2_female
space_costume = pl_female2_head, li_hatcher_body, comm_li_hatcher_female
firstname_male = 226608, 226741
firstname_female = 226808, 226952
lastname = 227008, 227307
rank_desig = 197005, 197006, 197007, 3, 4
formation_desig = 197808, 197820
formation = fighters, fighter_guild

npcships.ini

[npcshiparch
nickname = si_mi_defe19
loadout = si_mi_defe
level = d19
ship_archetype = Li_Elite
pilot = pilot_police_ace
state_graph = fighter
npc_class = lawful, class_fighter, d1, d2, d3, d4, d5, d6, d7, d8, d9, d10, d11, d12, d13, d14, d15, d16, d17, d18, d19

[npcshiparch
nickname = si_mi_Valk19
loadout = si_mi_valk
level = d19
ship_archetype = rh_Elite
pilot = pilot_police_ace
state_graph = fighter
npc_class = lawful, class_fighter, d1, d2, d3, d4, d5, d6, d7, d8, d9, d10, d11, d12, d13, d14, d15, d16, d17, d18, d19

[npcshiparch
nickname = si_mi_crus19
loadout = si_mi_defe
level = d19
ship_archetype = br_Elite
pilot = pilot_police_ace
state_graph = fighter
npc_class = lawful, class_fighter, d1, d2, d3, d4, d5, d6, d7, d8, d9, d10, d11, d12, d13, d14, d15, d16, d17, d18, d19

[npcshiparch
nickname = si_mi_drag19
loadout = si_mi_drag
level = d19
ship_archetype = ku_Elite
pilot = pilot_police_ace
state_graph = fighter
npc_class = lawful, class_fighter, d1, d2, d3, d4, d5, d6, d7, d8, d9, d10, d11, d12, d13, d14, d15, d16, d17, d18, d19

Loadouts.ini

[Loadout
nickname = Si_MI_Valk
archetype = RH_ELITE
equip = ge_bwe_engine_01
equip = npc_shield02_mark10, HpShield01
equip = infinite_power
equip = ge_s_scanner_02
equip = ge_s_tractor_01
equip = ge_s_thruster_03, HpThruster01
equip = fc_c_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon01
equip = fc_ou_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon02
equip = gd_gm_gun01_mark04, HpWeapon03
equip = fc_c_gun02_mark03, HpWeapon04
equip = rh_gun02_mark04, HpWeapon05
equip = rh_gun02_mark04, HpWeapon06
equip = gd_z_turret01_mark03, HpTurret01
equip = cruise_disruptor01_mark02, HpTorpedo01
cargo = cruise_disruptor01_mark02_ammo, 50
equip = mine01_mark05, HpMine01
cargo = mine01_mark05_ammo, 50
equip = ge_s_cm_03, HpCM01
cargo = ge_s_cm_03_ammo, 50

[Loadout
nickname = Si_MI_Drag
archetype = KU_ELITE
equip = ge_bwe_engine_01
equip = npc_shield02_mark10, HpShield01
equip = infinite_power
equip = ge_s_scanner_02
equip = ge_s_tractor_01
equip = ge_s_thruster_03, HpThruster01
equip = fc_c_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon01
equip = fc_ou_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon02
equip = gd_gm_gun01_mark04, HpWeapon03
equip = fc_c_gun02_mark03, HpWeapon04
equip = rh_gun02_mark04, HpWeapon05
equip = special_gun14, HpWeapon06
equip = cruise_disruptor01_mark02, HpTorpedo01
cargo = cruise_disruptor01_mark02_ammo, 50
equip = mine01_mark05, HpMine01
cargo = mine01_mark05_ammo, 50
equip = ge_s_cm_03, HpCM01
cargo = ge_s_cm_03_ammo, 50

[Loadout
nickname = Si_MI_Crus
archetype = br_elite
equip = ge_bwe_engine_01
equip = npc_shield02_mark10, HpShield01
equip = infinite_power
equip = ge_s_scanner_02
equip = ge_s_tractor_01
equip = ge_s_thruster_03, HpThruster01
equip = fc_ou_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon01
equip = fc_c_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon02
equip = gd_gm_gun01_mark04, HpWeapon03
equip = fc_c_gun02_mark03, HpWeapon04
equip = rh_gun02_mark04, HpWeapon05
equip = special_gun09, HpWeapon06
equip = cruise_disruptor01_mark02, HpTorpedo01
cargo = cruise_disruptor01_mark02_ammo, 50
equip = mine01_mark05, HpMine01
cargo = mine01_mark05_ammo, 50
equip = ge_s_cm_03, HpCM01
cargo = ge_s_cm_03_ammo, 50

[Loadout
nickname = Si_MI_Defe
archetype = li_elite
equip = ge_bwe_engine_01
equip = npc_shield02_mark10, HpShield01
equip = infinite_power
equip = ge_s_scanner_02
equip = ge_s_tractor_01
equip = ge_s_thruster_03, HpThruster01
equip = fc_ou_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon01
equip = fc_c_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon02
equip = gd_gm_gun01_mark04, HpWeapon03
equip = fc_c_gun02_mark03, HpWeapon04
equip = rh_gun02_mark04, HpWeapon05
equip = fc_ou_gun01_mark05, HpWeapon06
equip = gd_z_turret01_mark03, HpTurret01
equip = cruise_disruptor01_mark02, HpTorpedo01
cargo = cruise_disruptor01_mark02_ammo, 50
equip = mine01_mark05, HpMine01
cargo = mine01_mark05_ammo, 50
equip = ge_s_cm_03, HpCM01
cargo = ge_s_cm_03_ammo, 50

initialworld.ini

[Group
nickname = si_mi_grp
ids_name = 320001
ids_info = 321001
ids_short_name = 320002
rep = .9, li_n_grp
rep = .9, li_lsf_grp
rep = .9, li_p_grp
rep = .9, br_n_grp
rep = .9, br_p_grp
rep = .9, ku_n_grp
rep = .9, ku_p_grp
rep = .9, rh_n_grp
rep = .9, rh_p_grp
rep = 0, co_alg_grp
rep = 0, co_be_grp
rep = 0, br_m_grp
rep = 0, co_nws_grp
rep = 0, co_hsp_grp
rep = 0, co_ic_grp
rep = 0, co_khc_grp
rep = 0, co_kt_grp
rep = 0, rh_m_grp
rep = 0, co_me_grp
rep = 0, co_ni_grp
rep = 0, co_os_grp
rep = 0, co_rs_grp
rep = 0, co_shi_grp
rep = 0, co_ss_grp
rep = 0, co_ti_grp
rep = 0, co_vr_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_bd_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_b_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_c_grp
rep = -0.3, fc_fa_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_g_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_gc_grp
rep = -0.3, fc_h_grp
rep = -0.3, fc_j_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_lh_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_lr_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_lwb_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_m_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_ou_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_rh_grp
rep = 0, fc_or_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_u_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_x_grp
rep = 0, gd_gm_grp
rep = 0, fc_uk_grp
rep = -0.65, fc_n_grp
rep = 0, fc_ln_grp
rep = 0, fc_kn_grp
rep = 0, fc_rn_grp
rep = 0, fc_ouk_grp
rep = 0, fc_q_grp
rep = 0, fc_f_grp
rep = 0, gd_im_grp
rep = 0, gd_z_grp
rep = 0.91, gd_bh_grp
rep = 0.9, si_mi_grp

with all the crap under all other factions

finally, empathy.ini

[RepChangeEffects
group = SI_MI_GRP
event = object_destruction, -0.024900
event = random_mission_success, 0.140000
event = random_mission_failure, -0.045000
event = random_mission_abortion, -0.067500
empathy_rate = li_n_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = li_lsf_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = li_p_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = br_n_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = br_p_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = ku_n_grp, 0.025000
empathy_rate = ku_p_grp, 0.025000
empathy_rate = rh_n_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = rh_p_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = co_shi_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_khc_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = co_kt_grp, 0
empathy_rate = br_m_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_me_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_be_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_rs_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_vr_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_ni_grp, 0
empathy_rate = rh_m_grp, 0.050000
empathy_rate = co_ti_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_ic_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_ss_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_hsp_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_alg_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_os_grp, 0
empathy_rate = co_nws_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_c_grp, -0.150000
empathy_rate = fc_ou_grp, -0.200000
empathy_rate = fc_rh_grp, -0.250000
empathy_rate = fc_bd_grp, -0.100000
empathy_rate = fc_j_grp, -0.050000
empathy_rate = fc_h_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_m_grp, -0.050000
empathy_rate = fc_x_grp, -0.300000
empathy_rate = fc_b_grp, -0.050000
empathy_rate = fc_g_grp, -0.150000
empathy_rate = fc_lh_grp, -0.150000
empathy_rate = fc_u_grp, -0.100000
empathy_rate = fc_gc_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_lwb_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_fa_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_lr_grp, -0.150000
empathy_rate = fc_or_grp, 0
empathy_rate = gd_gm_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_uk_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_n_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_ln_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_kn_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_rn_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_ouk_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_q_grp, 0
empathy_rate = fc_f_grp, 0
empathy_rate = gd_im_grp, 0
empathy_rate = gd_z_grp, 0.050000


Can anyone see whats wrong with this???

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Ahh... sweet simplicity point, click, own.

[EFS Aravis+$_Capt On 24/7 Eagle Utopia

The Republic Mod

Does everyone else in the empathy file have empathy towards them too? (ie - did you add them to all the other entires - them being the new faction?)

Same again for initial world - did you add them all there too??

Next up, give them existing ships references to another factino - like lib rogues ships, and see what happens. See if they start appearing then.

Edited by - Chips on 8/11/2004 3:00:39 PM

How chips? ill double check those 2 but im pretty sure they are

I mean i have all new ships in the group like 4 different factions use them. Ive got Defender, Valkyre, Crusader, and Dragon

edit yes they are all there in empathy and initialworld
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The Republic Mod

Edited by - Aravis on 8/11/2004 3:30:08 PM

Just a note for when you're testing out with patrols: you would change the line near the bottom saying patrolp_gov_patrol to patrolp_assault

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I will

@Aravis

Mmh, your ini files look correct for me. Just an idea ...
try to change the entry in intialworld.ini for ids_info to another value (66200 = liberty navy). Ids_name is a string resource and ids_info an html resource. Maybe it has an impact. Also start a new game for testing and never use a saved game.

Do the new faction appear in normal encounters like area_assault ?

Greetz
eisfuerst

Ill try that


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It only crashes when i put them in an encounter. This faction is not linked to anything or replaceing an old one if that matters any. Its brand new.

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The Republic Mod