Hardpoints do not rotate like I want!!!

Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:04 pm by Black Eagle

Hi everyone!
This is really crazy! I made two new turret hardpoints on a shipmodel from Baene (the outrider from the Asgard RPG Mod).
At first I set them to fully rotate, like normal turrets do. Everything worked well, but I realized, that I was able to shoot right through the main wing of my ship. So I set some limits for the turrets rotating.
Now the first turret can rotate 210 degrees to the left and 5 degrees to the right. The second turret can rotate 5 degrees to the left and 210 degrees to the right. But now my first turret only rotates 180 degrees to the left and the second only 180 degrees to the right. If I want them to rotate more than 180 degrees (e.g.: 200 degrees), they rotate just back to the normal position, facing forward. I also tried higher numbers for both (240 and 10, also 300 and 10), but this didn't help. Is there anyone, who knows how to make them rotate more than 180 degrees in one direction?
If you need some more information (maybe other numbers, or the orientation of the turret) please write it in this thread, and I will post them as fast as possible. I tried to solve this problem for a long time and read all threads about hardpoints in the forums, but all this did not help.I'm also not so good at making new hardpoints, so please help!!!
Thanks!

Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:24 pm by black_lightning

how bout put the actual numbers you edited in with the utf editor so we can see instead of writing the degrees they are suppoesed to turn. Since that most likely is the problem.

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:52 pm by firebase

Black_Eagle...

I encountered that same problem a long time ago... and guess what... when you want your turret rotate 360 degrees you just add the value of 6.283185 from your min and max... Now if you want to limit the rotation of your turret like 5 degrees to right and 210 degrees to the left, this will be an issue to fl and your 210 degrees to the left will work up to 180 degrees only. Tried many methods and fl will still give 180 degrees rotation.

Still a thought... i tried to limit the y axis (gun up/down) and this too cannot be limited. i mean what ever your value is your gun can still point up 45 degrees...

a message from firebase...

Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:10 am by Black Eagle

Here are the numbers black_lightning:

First Turret:
Axis:
0.000000
-1.000000
0.000000

Max:
3.665191
0.000000

Min:
-0.000001
0.000000

Orientation:
1.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000
1.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000
1.000000

Second Turret:
Axis:
0.000000
-1.000000
0.000000

Max:
0.000001
0.000000

Min:
-3.665191
0.000000

Orientation:
1.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000
1.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000
1.000000

This is with 210 degrees to the one side and with 0 degrees to the other. This is what I need!

Thanks also to Sun Striker:
This sounds really bad, but I hope, there is someone, who can solve this!!!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:44 am by Black Eagle

Please help!
My hardpoints still only rotate up to 180 degrees to one direction and I don't know why. If there is no possibility to solve the problem, I can also change the orientation of the hardpoint.
I tried to change the orientation of the turret, so that it faces backwards or to the left/right. But somehow it won't work. What do I have to change in the orientation to make my turrets facing to the left/right??
I already tried this for Orientation:

Backward:

1.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000
1.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000
-1.000000

Left:

1.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000
1.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000
0.000000

Is this right? It did not really work!!!
Thanks for your help!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:18 am by black_lightning

i don't think the left one is correct, I know there is a tut somewhere on here which goes over the numbers for hardpoint orientation, but sometimes what's best is to look for a ship whos gun is orientated in the same direction you want yours oriented in. For instance the dromedary has turrets which face to the left and right, so look up in the utf editor how those are

for the port side:
0.000000
0.000000
1.000000
0.000000
1.000000
0.000000
-1.000000
0.000000
0.000000

for starboard:
0.000000
0.000000
-1.000000
0.000000
1.000000
0.000000
1.000000
0.000000
0.000000

Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:05 am by Black Eagle

Many thanks black_lightning!
I got the turrets to work. They are now facing to the left/right. So they only have to rotate 90 degrees to each side! I think that Sun Striker is also right, because I wasn't able to make my turrets rotate more than 180 degrees (except of rotating 360 degrees), but my problem is solved now!
Thanks again to black_lightning and Sun Striker!

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