it may be the size of the ship that's the problem... make it REALLY BIG and see what happens

+++ out of cheese error - redo from start +++

Well... I was going to try that. But when ever I get abound to exporting, it crashes. Every time. It did not do this before... Aww heck! I guess I'm just not made to model...

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If milkshape don't work out perhaps you should try the 'zoolander' approach (dance off imminent... the look isnt working)

+++ out of cheese error - redo from start +++

What? Was that a joke? I think it was... But I dont get it...

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I noticed that my Milkshape sometimes crashes on exports if the whole model isn't selected for some reason, so go to "EDIT" then "Select All" and then try to export.

As for ship not being visible, size can do that, also MAKE SURE that you are NOT using 32 bit textures!!! Freelancer will not display 32 bit textures which can also cause an invisible ship. Open up Photoshop or whatever program you use for picture editing and re-save (or just check and make sure) that your textures are 24 bit or lower.

Good luck...

Baene

lol it was a joke also a reference to a rather ridiculous film called Zoolander (with the same pair that did Starsky & Hutch remake) who play two male models.
Anyway... back to topic befor Mr Chips yells at me

+++ out of cheese error - redo from start +++

if you'd like to send me the ms3d I could take a look?

[email protected]

in 90% of cases invisible ships are typos in either shiparch.ini or inside the .mat file.
check that u use unique names, the right ones, check material names in milkshape, check references in the .mat file and so on. i bet its somewhere there.

believe me, i had this often enough - it was a pain to get the 1st ship into space but once u did it a few times its really easy

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Who are you? I dont want you taking my model... <_< Hey baene, It didn't work. Still crashes. Now.... Why would milkshape start crashing right when I'm so close?

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Edited by - karatekid88 on 5/4/2004 2:12:47 PM

Edited by - karatekid88 on 5/4/2004 3:21:43 PM

oh, wont happen again

what version of Milkshape are you using? I don't have any problems with 1.7.0, but still if i don't select ALL, before export, MS crashes...as long as i select it all, i have zero problems...If all else fails, you DO know me hehe if you want me to look it over for you, i'd be happy to

Baene

What wont happen agian? I was kinda kidding about you stealing my ship... But you never know I am using 1.6.4. Cuz I dont want to buy 1.7.0! lol. Sure, check your email eh? (It is not my best work though. By any means. I.E. I am not that bad of a modeller! )

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Hey, no worries bro it's definately your version of MS giving you problems, i think. I had MANY MANY problems with 1.6.4, but i know what you mean about the $$

I'll check it out, and email you back bud

Baene

Well, I tried agian, and this time I'm back where I started from... It crashes on startup. I must have gotten lucky that time when I could buy it. Could somone please walk me though this or somthing? I can give you the exact text entries I have in the files... I'll do that. Here is what I have in shiparch.ini:

<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>[Ship
ids_name = 237021
ids_info = 66542
ids_info1 = 66543
ids_info2 = 66608
ids_info3 = 66544
ship_class = 3
nickname = ship1
LODranges = 0, 75, 150, 2000
msg_id_prefix = gcs_refer_shiparch_hfighter
mission_property = can_use_berths
type = FIGHTER
DA_archetype = Ships\MYSHIPS\SHIP1\ship1.cmp
material_library = ships\MYSHIPS\SHIP1\ship1.mat
material_library = fx\envmapbasic.mat
envmap_material = envmapbasic
cockpit = cockpits\kusari\pi_elite2.ini
max_bank_angle = 30
camera_offset = 11, 33
camera_angular_acceleration = 0.060000
camera_horizontal_turn_angle = 20
camera_vertical_turn_up_angle = 10
camera_vertical_turn_down_angle = 20
camera_turn_look_ahead_slerp_amount = 1.000000
nanobot_limit = 71
shield_battery_limit = 71
hit_pts = 12600
pilot_mesh = generic_pilot
mass = 150.000000
linear_drag = 1.000000
hold_size = 15
explosion_arch = explosion_co_elite
surface_hit_effects = 0, small_hull_hit_light01, small_hull_hit_light02, small_hull_hit_light03
surface_hit_effects = 150, small_hull_hit_medium01, small_hull_hit_medium02, small_hull_hit_medium03
surface_hit_effects = 300, small_hull_hit_heavy01, small_hull_hit_heavy02, small_hull_hit_heavy03
steering_torque = 43000.000000, 43000.000000, 143000.000000
angular_drag = 41000.000000, 41000.000000, 141000.000000
rotation_inertia = 8400.000000, 8400.000000, 8400.000000
nudge_force = 30000.000000
strafe_force = 20000
strafe_power_usage = 2
bay_door_anim = Sc_pi_vheavy_fighter
bay_doors_open_snd = cargo_doors_open
bay_doors_close_snd = cargo_doors_close
HP_bay_surface = HpBayDoor01
HP_bay_external = HpBayDoor02
num_exhaust_nozzles = 1 </font></pre>

Here is the goods.ini entry:

<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>[Good
nickname = ship1_package
category = ship
hull = ship1_hull
addon = ge_bhe2_engine_01, internal, 1
addon = bh_elite2_power01, internal, 1
addon = ge_s_scanner_01, internal, 1
addon = ge_s_tractor_01, internal, 1

[Good
nickname = ship1_hull
category = shiphull
ship = ship1
price = 10000
ids_name = 12018
item_icon = Equipment\models\commodities\nn_icons\li_fighter.3db </font></pre>

And here is market_ships.ini:

<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>[BaseGood
base = Li01_01_base
marketgood = gf1_package, 0, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = ship1_package, 7, -1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1
marketgood = gf4_package, 13, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = gf5_package, 24, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = gf6_package, 30, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = bwf_package, 4, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = bwe_package, 20, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = bwe2_package, 30, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = bwfr_package, 10, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = cof_package, 8, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = coe_package, 28, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = coe2_package, 32, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = lf_package, 1, -1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1
marketgood = le_package, 2, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = lfr_package, 1, -1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1
marketgood = bf_package, 6, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = be_package, 8, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = bfr_package, 4, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = kf_package, 10, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = ke_package, 13, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = kfr_package, 10, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = rf_package, 20, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = re_package, 22, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = rfr_package, 20, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = pf_package, 2, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = pe_package, 13, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = pfr_package, 4, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = bhf_package, 4, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = bhe_package, 13, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = bhe2_package, 26, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1
marketgood = oe_package, 16, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1 </font></pre>

Can anyone find anything wrong with that? My files are in this directory "DATA\SHIPS\MYSHIPS\SHIP1\ship1.cmp/sur/mat" anything wrong? (Also, I only have the hpmount tractor and exaust HP's on there... Could that be why? Does it need contrails or somthing? I also only have one texture. anything wrong there?)

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Edited by - karatekid88 on 5/6/2004 10:37:06 AM

Edited by - karatekid88 on 5/6/2004 10:38:13 AM

Edited by - karatekid88 on 5/6/2004 10:43:37 AM