This is what did it for me right here:

"There are some ones that i have altered to make them different and all you need to do to bypass the sur files is go into the games main console reroute the code and there u go! I did most of this using code so it is easier to do things! "

The message before says he's in contact with some programmers, but then he says he did most of this doing code. As in like programming code? So you can write code, but you need programmers to tell you that you have to redo the whole thing. Just curious, you know, because the definition of a programmer is someone who writes code. I'm with chips on the fact that someone with an intimate enough understanding of low-level computer-function to crack sur files would be able to know that their system was infected with a virus.

Then there's this whole section of rerouting the code through the game's main console. For arguments sake; let's say he hacked the exe file to make it so that it ignored .sur files. Well, either he wrote in a replacement for .sur files somehow (using his own format and all that) and then managed to make it compatible with the game. If your going to do that, why not simply write your own game? To alter the way the game handles physics so intimately, I mean, why stick with the game's limitations instead of just making a new one. But I believe this method to be impossible by him, based on argument contained in above paragraph. The second thing he could have done is make the game ignore sur files, or simply not use them, which means that since the game still looks for them, it either crashes or you can fly through every object you find. I love this terminology "rerouting the code through the game's main console". What does that mean? 'Cause it sounds like something that came out of a sci-fi movie to me. Maybe R2D2 could do that on the Death Star to find where Princess Leia was being held. Do you know WHY R2D2 could do that? Because he's not real. Because star wars is a movie!

I kinda feel dumb just replying to this kind of bait. I'm not even saying that a mod which does this type of thing is impossible. Someone could have hacked the sur files. Someone could have even altered the game fundamentally. I just don't believe that he's the one who did it. I sincerely hope that he proves me wrong. I just don't think he will.

a new game,eh????? hmmmmmmmmm........ mabye i dont know mabye.......
oh and all i did was make the shps and mods work togther and i added a few systems and ships etc, all the programming wuz dun by programmers coincidently! well if you r not allowed to alter the exe files then i am buggered! oh and that virius is messin wit my email and msn but i emailed the mod (i divided it up into smaller files) to the beta testers so thats wot went wrong. so the mod (if its ok to alter the exe files) will soon be out on the internet!

Even if you were to do the mod, anyone could look inside and see the changes made. All the mods here have been open and above board with their mods. Keeping nothing hidden. But it sound like, and if you have, you want to keep it all to yourself as if you dicovered treasure. If anyone can find a way to edit/modify the sur file, they would in all probability share that info so other good mods could be made. Bottom line, like Chips says, the proof is in the pudding.

Michael "Finalday"
In Memory Of WLB

@kaegogi
lmfao...

As per the cracking of surs, thing is this, anyone who has the capability of going into freelancer and changing the physics of how it reads in the sur data and "rerouting" it to read another source for information regarding collision data would have to have a fairly good understanding of how the sur data works in order to know what to replace, good enough understanding infact that no one who has the capability of doing such a thing would do it, this being cause it would be one damn hell simpiler just to write a program which takes the vmeshdata and turns it into .sur data. Hence why no one would even undertake the course of action which has been detailed in pizza's above threads. Well, perhaps pizza's "little friends" might do such a thing... but persoannly, I don't have much faith or trust in those little faries, god dang pixel dust clogs up the keyboard, those bastards.

New Mod Coming!!!

I've worked out how to hack the internal scenes for bases!!! Players can now move around freely inside the bars and shops and interact with everything!!! Steal supplies from the Commodities Trader!!! Test fire DIAMONDBACKS at pedestrians on New London!!! Smoke Cardamine on Crete, or slump in a drunken heap at the Sheffield Station Beer Festival!!! Fight Junkers in a Tekken-style subgame on Rochester!!! Reprogram the bar-droids to scream obscenities at other customers for your amusement!!! See Juni strip on Manhattan (1,000,000 credits per view, groin-stimulator attachment sold seperately)!!!


Well, I say that I'VE done it - it was actually a team of 12 year old autistic-genius computer programmer kids who did most of it. Apparently they plugged an astromech droid into the game console, and hacked loads of stuff and that. It's really good, and true.

Thanks to all on this thread for the ideas in this mod. You made it all possible.




Edited by - Vype on 3/29/2004 4:25:30 PM

I would get it, I didn't hear a hint of sarcasm in it, when should it be downloadable?[/sarcasm(any of you wh oare familiar with BBCode will know this)

Damn microsoft!
If i do realise this mod/addon microsoft will sue me!
They dont like the idea of me hacking the exe files and changing almost the whole game!
Damn them!!!!!!
Damn damn damn!
Well i will realise it though!
I will jus call it an unofissial expansion pack Yah im gunna make a game!
Not a mod for freelancer or other games but a real game!

I am very happy if u r wonderin!
So expect the mod out soon as an "exspansion"
But u will have to download it from this site soon!

You would have to then create a EXE file from scratch, as a edited one will be illegal. At that point you will make a different game, which takes years to make one worthy of use. However, drop the exe aspect and make a mod, which is easier and be happy.

In the mean time, save the braging of what you could do, and show what you have done. Folks will be more willing to listen then,

Careful not to bash, too.

Michael "Finalday"
In Memory Of WLB

Edited by - Finalday on 4/2/2004 4:52:09 PM

I cant alter the exe files??????????
DAMN!!!!
There goes the whole mod!
Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn!!!!!!!!!!
That wrecks it all!!!!

L M A O


Erm sorry, what i meant was:

WHAT A SUPRISE

All those hard hours posting rubbis.....I mean MODDING lost huh??!?!

Sometimes life just aint fair.

Hmmm...how very convenient. You do all this amazing stuff to the game, and there's no way to prove it. Remind me why we should believe you again?

don't worry, I'm sure he'll come back on with another forum name and claim he has a mod which lets players dock on other players cap ships, and that worlds rotate around the suns with dynamic positioning. Then we get to make fun of the stupidity again

You can have bits of the mod but not the whole thing cause it alters the exe files.
The new "World" (not Sirius) map is avaible and all the systems and ships etc are avaible and the unique entering of staions is now a bit cut down........you now dock like usual and still fly around inside the station but the textures and other small things arent as good. So the mod will be out on April 20 after the beta tests are done.

Well PizzaPete, the sceptics are all lined up, and as one of them, i eaglery await your mod. Honestly, if you HAVE done what you say you have, then i will be the first to appologise/eat my words etc, but - for now, please - my sides cannot take anymore...they are splitting.