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Post Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:18 pm

Apology

Being somewhat new to TLR, I failed to do the proper research into the subject and rather rudely broke a rule on the TLR forums. I requested info on how to allow cloaking on my server, not aware that the subject is taboo. I would like to apologize for this and promise to never repeats this. I would really like this to be posted and let it serve as a warning to anyone else looking for this information. Again, I apologize to TLR and it's excellent moderaters. Thank you.

Sanic.

Post Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:32 pm

Well said! Welcome to the family.

Post Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:13 pm

Just out of curiosity, how good is anti-cloaking tech for MP servers? Let me be clear, I am not asking for anything, but it is my opinion that a server operator should (and only server operators), if possible, should be allowed to choose what kind of tech their server allows. For instance, I was only looking for the mod to review and test on behalf of my friends that are curious about it. I fully understand the concerns of abuse in MP games, but thought it a little unfair that I deny it without weighing it myself. But please understand that the forum moderaters (as well as the people that are so obviously wanting this for "evil" purposes) have swayed me to not allowing it (even if it were available). But I must admit, a person is usually most drawn to what they can't have. I confess that I'd still like to try one for a few days. Alas, if anyone agrees with me, MAKE YOUR OWN DAMN MOD and stop bothering people. I am also wanting to learn to make mods (not like the one in question) and would appreciate any guidance anyone can offer.

Sanic

Post Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:42 am

Hmm, there are a few Cloak Detectors here in the download section. I still use the one Chips made when I was still a member of TE. Also, Joe Boomz server operator program effectivly removed 99% of people that have cloaks mounted and insta bans them.

Cloaking mods are a somewhat touchy issue here. Mostly because people are going to abuse it. Face it, if they have the power, then they're going to use it to abuse. At least, I think that 90% will abuse it.

My advice would be, forget about the cloak and instal Joe Boomz server operator program and have fun because your server won't be plaqued by countless cloakers.

Post Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:16 am

Thanks for your imput. I, oddly enough, stumbled onto the server operator program a couple weeks ago and have been using it, but was not aware of all it's bells and whistles yet. Any more cool insights on how to run a server would be appreciated.


Sanic



"They come in Pints??"

Post Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:19 am

by the way, I am only running a small private server while practicing for a much bigger one. I don't want to piss off a bunch of people while learning the ropes, so my friends will have to do. But anyone that is an experienced server operator that would like to help or see how I'm doing can let me know and I'll guide to me server.

Sanic

"They come in Pints??"

Post Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:58 pm

right, my anti cloaking was incomplete, due to more idiocy on my part. chips' works fine. both are clientside. now, the thing is, most cloakers will have other modded crap along with them. and there is no way to detect if they are trying to be cloaked or not. they just either are or aren't. so, if you see someone standing there doing nothing, its ALWAYS a nice idea to take note of his name, and keep an eye on em. just a precaution for if he blasts you away with his 'oober leet catzorz teh dis tis!11!' gun mods.

as for the apology, thanks. id still like an apology from each of the hundreds of people constantly spamming my inbox with cloak requests, but hey, we cant get what we all want, unfortunately . (one person even told me to just release it to shut everyone up, yea, riiiiiiight).

at least you have the logic and reasoning to understand your mistakes. a simple apology goes a long way, and it works infinitely better than just getting pissed.

Post Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:52 pm

Indeed the the 1.1 patch can prevent alot of unwanted cloakers. Since the patch detects anything which doesn't belong to the ship/market, you don't have to worry about bunch of cloakers fly around in your server. Plus use the admin tools to keep an eye on the players' ships will do too.

Peace doesn't exist between the livings, but the dead.

Post Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:06 pm

I had hoped that my apology would tempt other people to express an end to the Cloaking question, but I guess it shows why MOST people are looking for it in the first place.

OK PEOPLE: NOONE is going to give out a cloaking mod! EVER.

Just to clarify, some people started emailing me about cloaks because they thought I had one. I DON'T! I will not be trying to make one! I will not be trying to get anyone elses. I happen to agree with the TLR Moderators about them. STOP EMAILING ME!

Sanic

"47 is the most reoccuring number in the universe!"

"They come in Pints??"

Post Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:24 am

IONCROSS server op has a 99% chance of getting rid of those cloak mods involving custom guns. However I met a cheater using his own custom cloak. Not sure how he did it, I managed to scan him and saw nothing as weaps. Must be custom.

Anyway that dude also had some uber hull mod and some modded weapons that kinda PKed every1 in less than a second.

But the cloak detector still works

Also, is there anyway for a client to combat a person using a uber hull mod? No messaging a server admin takes too long

Post Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:56 am

put it on the bright side. at least you can see them and know who it was that killed you with detectors. it COULD be much worse.

as for sanic:

Just to clarify, some people started emailing me about cloaks because they thought I had one. I DON'T! I will not be trying to make one! I will not be trying to get anyone elses. I happen to agree with the TLR Moderators about them. STOP EMAILING ME!

welcome to my world. the only difference is people KNOW i have cloaking and a ton of cloaking tricks and how to bypass this and that. but... why would i kill freelancer multiplayer anymore than i did? it really baffles me sometimes.

Post Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:41 pm

Isn't there just a piece of equipment that cloaks you? How hard would it be to ban it? If someone could explain how it works (which is unlikely) then it'd be a hella lot easier to come up with an anti-cloak.

Post Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:22 pm

Well I asked wasup for a cloak for my mod but I dont need it thanks to his anti cloak PS I am not a cheater I just wanted it for my mod but I found out that it is useless cause if someone with a cloak is able to see someone else with a cloak.

Post Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:24 pm

No you dont need an equipment for a cloak that is only if you wanna turn it off. Mine dont turn off but they dont show up in scans and I only use them to mess with someone not to cheat. But I have yet to run into a cheater on FL.

Post Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:39 pm

why is cloaking a taboo question?wud like to no, im not going to try it cos i dont no how to i was just wondering thanks
Gizmoeddy

Dead men dont lie!

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